To PT or not to PT

Discussion in 'Cleared for the Approach' started by luvflyin, Mar 20, 2021.

  1. aterpster

    aterpster En-Route

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    I wouldn't be even slightly surprised.
     
  2. luvflyin

    luvflyin Touchdown! Greaser!

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    Just checked my email. They responded with Notam issued, case closed. I think your copy to Flight Standards mighta worked. After they stuck some needles in their Wally Doll of course:rofl: Have you felt any unexplained pains?
     
  3. Palmpilot

    Palmpilot Touchdown! Greaser! PoA Supporter

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    I got a needle stuck in me on Wednesday, and have definitely been feeling pains!
     
  4. aterpster

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    No pain, no gain.
    :eek:
     
  5. Captain Bubba

    Captain Bubba Pre-Flight

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    If you cross DLL outbound on the 007 radial with a needle on scale, then yes you are 'established on the Approach'. The Pilot/Controller glossary defines the Initial Approach segment as "between the initial approach fix and the intermediate fix or the point where the aircraft is established on the intermediate course or final approach course." This approach has no IF, but it does have a clearly identified intermediate course which is outbound from the IAF on the 007 radial. Until I have a stable needle on scale and on that course I am not going to consider myself established and will not be executing a PT. Not only will I do it that way because I am 100% certain that is the legal way to do it, it's also the most practical way to do it. If you start trying to do a PT before you have a solid reference of what the winds are doing to you in relation to the final approach course, you are setting yourself up for failure. Furthermore I'm not putting forth any proposition. I'm describing what my interpretation of how the approach is intended to be flown. As I've always maintained, if you have another interpretation, do what you feel is right. I'm not going to tell you how to run your ship. That's the FAA's job or your employer if you are flying for a paycheck.
     
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    FTFY.
     
  7. MauleSkinner

    MauleSkinner Final Approach

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    If you wait until you’re tracking outbound on the final approach course before you figure out what the winds are, especially with modern avionics, you’re setting yourself up for failure.