Swimming pool experts?

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  1. pmanton

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    We have a small salt water pool. Over the years I have found the chlorine generator to be a pain in the butt and expensive to boot.

    If I wanted to convert to a chemical pool what chemicals do I need to keep the water safe?
    Comparing the two is a chemical pool harder to maintain ?

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    Paul
    Salome, AZ.
     
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    What size pool? Most of the time, you just dump trichlor tablets into something (you may already have the provision for that in whatever sucks the water out of the pool or you could use floating dispensors). From time to time you need to shock it to get rid of bound chlorine. Nothing too onerous if you stay on top of it.
     
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    Most salt water pools are built with a chlorine tab dispenser in-line with the pump just in case…otherwise not hard to install…I had to make the switch a couple of years after building the pool as my natural sandstone coping was deteriorating due to salt. Always felt a Clorine pool was easier to maintain and less expensive in the long run when it comes to replacing pumps, heaters, and salt generators.
     
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    Toss in some chlorine tabs in the skimmer and go on if that's what you want to do. The cost is probably about a wash in terms of salt vs chemicals annually. Salt water pools are generally a bit more consistent about keeping pH, all else being equal. However, the equipment maintenance of salt water pools is where it often bites owners several years down the road. The downside to the chlorine/etc. is that it's harder on the eyes and the smell vs the salt water pool.
     
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    Last pool I had used an Ionizer. With a good setup maintenance is quite easy and the water is very clean. From the article:

    https://www.poolspanews.com/facilities/maintenance/an-intro-to-ions_o
     
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    Ionizer That sounds intriguing.
    I think that the next time I have to spend bucks on the chlorine generator I'll dump it and go with just adding the chlorine as needed.
     
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    A couple of quotes from an intriguing article:

    Later in the article:

    https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2004/er_1.html
     
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    I have a slat water pool and it is like 90% self maintaining. Throw a bag of salt in about once a quarter, throw a jug of acid in about the same frequency and it does the rest.

    When the salt cell has died and I am waiting for the replacement, I go to chemical mode and that is when it becomes a pain in the butt.
    Salt cells are like light bulbs and die so I replace it every 3-4 years for a couple hundred bucks.

    I have had this pool for 12 years and would never want to maintain a chemical pool.
     
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    I guess it shouldn't surprise me since the Apollo program predated the Safe Drinking Water Act. Copper is a primary (health related) drinking water contaminant. Silver is a secondary (aesthetically related) contaminant, but the only reason it hasn't been made a primary standard above its secondary MCL is it pretty much doesn't exist in water sources above those levels. Generally, we try to keep metals out of drinking water.
     
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    There's a wealth of evidence to show that the process is still being widely used.

    https://www.lenntech.com/processes/disinfection/chemical/disinfectants-copper-silver-ionization.htm

    A quote:

    Another quote:

    Well ... there it is! Neil lived to be 82 drinking that space water from Apollo ... :dunno:

    Edit: https://www.liquitech.com/products/copper-silver-ionization/
     
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    Ditto this. Would never go to chemical pool. My salt pool is nearly maintenance free. You will spend much more $ on keeping up chlorine tabs than replacing the salt cell every few years. I highly recommend you read www.troublefreepool.com and follow the advise on pool maintenance from them no matter what way you go.

     
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    Well what can I say. I'd lose my license if I allowed that in a public water system. It sounds like it is more aimed for hot water (shower/bath) type of application.
     
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    My saltwater pool came with a pentair generator. IT was ok..but also a bit of a pain... Seemed like it needed to be cleaned a fir bit more than I liked.
    It eventually died and i replaced it with a Hayward . It so far has been more "maintenance free"-ish.
    Mine is in a screen enclosure so I don't get much contamination(leaves and such) so it generally is fairly hands off.

    What sort of generator are you using? Maybe that's the thing....
     
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    Once again from that same website:

     
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    that looks just like the same housing on my replacement....the one I like. Probably made in the same factory. I see now that my earlier post was typo'd. The replacement I bought is by Hayward. I like it much better than the pentair. Seems like it requires far less attention.
     
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    In the grand scheme of all things that could kill early NASA astronauts, drinking water metal poisoning was probably pretty low on the list.
     
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    What sort of generator are you using? Maybe that's the thing...
    Zodiac LM-3
     
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    I’m old school. I use bromine!