Sport Pilot - second thoughts

Doc Bruce tells us they are actively counting the medical mishaps with SP guys. This would lead a conspiracy minded person to presume that regulation will follow.
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Which leaves me scratching my head... I thought the whole "let's drop the 3rd Class" was based on the fact that studies showed there were nearly NO incidents related to Sport Pilots and medical issues.
 
CT4ME said:
Which leaves me scratching my head... I thought the whole "let's drop the 3rd Class" was based on the fact that studies showed there were nearly NO incidents related to Sport Pilots and medical issues.
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Helloooo new america. we can't leave freedom on the table, for anyone. What if someone saw a free person, then they might want freedom and the next guy and the next. Sorry freedom has been canceled, until the world is a safer place.
 
rwellner98 said:
Regulation saves lives every day. Mandatory seat belts have saved thousands upon thousands of lives just in the US, far more if you include other countries. Compare US mining operations to Chinese ones if you want to see the different between unregulated and regulated mining.

Maybe this particular proposal isn't a good one, but to say "Regulation aint going to save lives" is a bit too black and white. As another poster said, common sense isn't always so common.
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Do you really think that people who used to not wear seat belts are active seat belt wearers now that "there's a law"? Seat belts have saved thousands of lives in the US, but I doubt that seat belt laws did. I've worn a seat belt religiously since I was a kid, but my friends who didn't wear seat belts before the laws still don't wear seat belts.
 
I think there's an education curve to safety with individuals just like anything else. My dad never wore a seatbelt in the 50s or early 60s. Then, he bought a Studebaker with seatbelts and started wearing them, notwithstanding the laws which were nothing in the mid 60s. His next car had belts, and my first VW came with a shoulder harness but no belt(weird) and he helped me put belts in the car as well. So, he learned without being force fed.

Improvements in systems are like anything else, they are gradual not evolutionary. I'm amazed that old planes can still fly with only a lap belt. After seeing someone seriously hurt in a bad landing with only a belt, I won't fly without a harness anymore. Not that I'm personally advocating for shoulder harnesses in all aircraft, but even a libertarian can see the difference regulation has made in safety. Normally I wouldn't care if someone wanted to fly without safety systems, but since we are all socialists now, I have to share in their cost when their decision not to use them costs me money. So, regulation it is.
 
flyingcheesehead said:
Do you really think that people who used to not wear seat belts are active seat belt wearers now that "there's a law"? Seat belts have saved thousands of lives in the US, but I doubt that seat belt laws did. I've worn a seat belt religiously since I was a kid, but my friends who didn't wear seat belts before the laws still don't wear seat belts.
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Actually, yes.

Some of us lived through the introduction. Some people resisted for several years, but it's a good bet anyone over 60 who now wears seat belts didn't in the 1970s. And, yes, the reason is the law and the threat of a citation.

Don't compare young people. Every teenager thinks they're indestructible.

Ever seen a 1964 Mustang? Did it have seat belts? What about a 1974 Mustang? That's regulation....
 
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More regulation just means more Peltzman effect same number of death/injury but everyone suffers less freedom.
 
MAKG1 said:
Actually, yes.

Some of us lived through the introduction. Some people resisted for several years, but it's a good bet anyone over 60 who now wears seat belts didn't in the 1970s. And, yes, the reason is the law and the threat of a citation.
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You lose. I accept PayPal. ;)

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but it's a good bet anyone over 60 who now wears seat belts didn't in the 1970s. And, yes, the reason is the law and the threat of a citation.
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Wrong, MAKG. The only time I haven't worn seat belts is when driving an old car that didn't have them. And yes, I am that old :).
 
ditto I was 16 in 55 and the first thing I did to my first car was install seat belts. I also soloed on my 16th birthday and that is probably why I've always worn seat belts.
 
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