Red Bull Pilots to Swap Planes in Midair

Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by Piperonca, Mar 16, 2022.

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How does Red Bull stunt end?

  1. Both planes and pilots survive unscathed

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  2. One plane or pilot impacts obstacle at speed

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  3. Multiple casualties and/or damage to both planes

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  4. Nothing happens after this

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  5. Temporary suspension by FAA of two pilots

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  6. Revocation by FAA of two pilots

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  7. All Red Bull personnel with certificates have them revoked

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  8. Other

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  1. Pilawt

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    Somewhere a disgusted Evel Knievel is shaking his head ...
     
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    I'm betting some suit from marketing is insisting they can't show it as their logos are on it.
     
  3. Half Fast

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    Or there's a crumpled baby stroller under it.
     
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    That announcer is complete garbage. He should be praising that one worked and not the whole “one almost died narrative”. The guy never even got close to it.
     
  5. Art Schmidt

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    I like that I can go back and change my vote ;)
     
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    Trevor Jacob is wondering what all the fuss is about. ;)
     
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    So, uh, does Red Bull get Trevor Jacob'd for this??? I mean, murdering a 182 for a stunt is at least as bad as a BC-12, no?

    Also: Called it!
     
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    Brutal
     
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    Oh, I’m sure. It’s ridiculous though. Everybody knows it didn’t make it.

    Do I bother watching the rest, hoping they show it? No, I don’t think I will.
     
  10. Piperonca

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    Called it. Next question: will they try again?
     
  11. Walboy

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    Depends if the "stunt" translates into more drink sales. Who's gonna back it?

    I spent three hours watching, I'm not the least bit thirsty for a Red Bull. Never even had one.
     
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    So what happened? Sounds like one plane lawn darted. Neither pilot died. Did they both exit their plane? Did one or both get back in the other plane? We're they wearing chutes?
     
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    The one guy keeps saying it just floated down...am I hearing that right? I'm watching it on Hulu. Missed it live. If that were the case surely they'd show the plane and not the smoking hole I suspect.
     
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    Both exited at the same time. One plane went into a spin almost immediately. The other was successfully "swapped". Pilot without a plane parachuted down
     
  15. Walboy

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    Courtesy of local Facebook group

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    ... and the plane that entered a spin apparently had a BRS (or similar) parachute system of its own that was deployed when it got below some altitude. That's based on the post-jump commentary, because of course THEY DIDN'T SHOW IT!
     
  17. RussR

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    Well that doesn't look like a very successful deployment of the emergency parachute. No wonder they didn't want to show it.

    The commentators and even maybe the pilots did make the occasional comment about it "landing". That's not much of a "landing".
     
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    I'm good with it. I'm glad nobody got hurt. Now we could use an announcement from the FAA that it's time to stop doing stupid things with airplanes. This really does seem like the corporate version of the guy that jumped out of a plane with fire extinguishers strapped to himself.
     
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  19. Piperonca

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    Impressed it all went as well as it did.
     
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    Even though the word "heading" was used during the broadcast, I think they were really using a 071 degree track, which makes sense to avoid collateral damage. The red shows an approx 071 track, the blue shows scattered homes in the vicinity.

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    I'm betting they never thought about how the BRS would interact with the speed brake they deployed.
     
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    I dunno, I think they probably put quite a lot of thought into it. These aren't exactly amateurs.
     
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    They might not be amateurs, but I don't think I'd put this particular road-runner/coyote escapade on the top of my resume.
     
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    Saw one news report that FAA had denied a waiver but Red Bull went ahead anyway. Anyone know? If so, I wonder if one or both pilots gets Trevor Jacobed....
     
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    Ok, My vote was wrong. I still maintain it was pointless and stupid, but I didn’t think they would do this without a waiver.
     
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    Whoa. Holy bad decisions Batman. What, like 3 days after they came down on Trevor Jacob? Imagine how nervous these guys must be, as the FAA can't just let this go. I thought this was kind of dumb from the start, but never dreamed redbull would sponsor a stunt like this after being denied a waiver.

    The picture of that crunched 182 makes me sick, so I won't feel even a little bad when these guys get their revocation letters.
     
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    Red Bull doesn't care who gets hurt, or what gets wrecked, as long as people watch.

    They have as much moral character as Putin.
     
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    The lack of video of the plane coming down under the chute and hitting the ground was noticeable. With the number of cameras running, it’s hard to believe it wasn’t captured on video.

    Is it possible the manufacturer of the chute was a sponsor and had asked that as a condition of sponsorship that if the chute failed it would not be aired? Just a thought.

    As an aside, we had switched away with about an hour to go to takeoff. Came back and there was still an hour to go! I thought it was always a live feed, but apparently we had unknowingly paused it and were about an hour behind. Then I saw the comment here about “One out of two ain’t bad”. SPOILER ALERT!!! Anyway, still exciting to watch even delayed and suspecting the outcome.
     
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ull-plane-swap-stunt-resulted-crash-rcna25795

    BTW, they weren't supposed to be doing this:
    "The FAA will investigate Sunday evening’s attempted Red Bull Plane Swap in Arizona," the statement said. "The agency on Friday denied the organizer’s request for an exemption from Federal regulations that cover the safe operation of an aircraft."
    Edit: I see this posted elsewhere, but it's easier to find here, and there doesn't appear to be a Delete button.
     
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    I see from the Today Show that the stunt failed and the FAA did not give permission for this. I hope people fry over this one! I am glad no one got hurt but things could have been even worse. What a shame!
     
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    So whadda all y’all think is going to happen to Red Bull stock today?
     
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    I don't doubt you (ok maybe I do) but is this really true? I'm asking because I really don't follow any red bull stuff but I know it's mostly "extreme sports", which people are doing on their own with or without red bull. but I guess it gets more attractive to do when there's $ponsorship. so is there a history of deaths/accidents and if so, is it the extreme sport causing it or red bull? and yeah, of course they want the views.
     
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    It was pretty stupid not to get FAA approval before doing all the prep work, arranging video and streaming, buying airplanes, etc. When the denial came, they were pretty far committed.
     
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    Does anybody think there was any chance whatsoever of the FAA approving a waiver to intentionally leave a plane with no pilot?
     
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    Well, they do allow drones and UAVs of various sizes, so I could see it happening. But not now.
     
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    Drones and UAVs are still generally pilot controlled, and even when not, it's not comparable to a 182.
     
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    It's hard to not see an emergency revocation of the 2 pilot's certificates. They seem like nice guys, but with a waiver denial in hand, what were they thinking???
     
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