Procedural Question on getting First Class after deferral

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  1. jtree007

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    Last year I applied for my first medical. I applied for a first class medical, it was deferred due to a DUI about 10 years ago without a BAC test. Submitted all my paperwork and I was issued a Second Class Medical. Other than the past DUI I did have sleep apnea but that was surgically corrected a few years ago. My AME was given all my medical records related to my sleep apnea and said that he was satisfied it was corrected.

    Moving forward would my AME be able to clear me for a first class medical in the future or would I be deferred again? Another way of stating the question, as I hold a valid second class medical does that allow an AME to issue a first-class medical or will I always be deferred due to the past DUI.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. AggieMike88

    AggieMike88 Touchdown! Greaser!

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    This is a really good question for Dr. Bruce (@bbchien) and/or Dr. Lou (@lbfjrmd)
     
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    I suspect Dr. B is going to give you the bad news. It's going to take a lot more than the FAA just mulling over your paperwork. You're going to have to show HIMS evaluation, demonstrated sobriety, participation in the AA hokum, etc.... Once issued, if you maintain it you can renew in the AME office each time. He still has to submit all that documentation for the FAA, but barring you doing something wrong, you don't have to wait on it.
     
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    I'm confused. Were you issued a 2nd class with a special issuance letter? If so, what were the provisions of the SI?
     
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    Just a standard Second Class Medical. Was not an SI, so no extra provisions. The letter with the certification just stated: "Our review of your medical records has established that you are eligible for a second-class medical certificate"

    After that, there were some canned statements that if I had had a substance abuse related issue or if I suffered from sleep apnea again I needed to report it and it might cause the need for re-evaluation or a denial.
     
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    Based on facts in evidence above, something is definitely odd.

    Strongly suggested that you cease communications here (to protect yourself) and go directly to a HIMS AME with Senior status to boot. Something has gotten very fouled around the propeller and you need to be consulting directly with the right AME who can (and is willing) to unfowl it.
     
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    Thanks for the help. I felt something was not quite right as well but I thought maybe I missed something. I wanted to see if there was an obvious answer that I had missed. I will get with my AME on Monday and see what is going on.
     
  8. PeterNSteinmetz

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    Not necessarily the original AME - a senior HIMS AME.
     
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    the worst that can happen is the agency demands a current “current status letter” from your doc.....
     
  10. Dave Theisen

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    Would they have only given the OP a second class because the process took longer than 6 months from the exam date?
     
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    I agree. Apply for a 1st class and see what they require. It will likely be deferred by your AME ( i would).
     
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    Given the massive backlog of the shutdown, if you really wanted to insure an office issuance, and it was > 3 years ago for the surgery, I'd get a NEGATIVE sleep study. That one we could issue in the office, bypassing the Nancy/Donald/Mitch and Chuck show.

    A lot of guys are preloading in order to get through.
     
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