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Dave Taylor
Looking for a reality check or confirmation on some of these:


ACCELERATION PUT INTO PERSPECTIVE:

* One Top Fuel dragster outfitted with a 500 cubic-inch Hemi
engine makes more horsepower (8,000 HP) than the first 4 rows at NASCAR's Daytona 500...
( Aaarrgh !! )

* Under full throttle, a dragster engine will consume 11.2 gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded Boeing 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate but with 25% less energy being produced.

* A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to merely drive the dragster's supercharger.

* With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lockup at full throttle.

* At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitro methane the flame front temperature measures 7050 degrees F.

* Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

* Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug, which is typically the output of an electric arc welder in each cylinder.

* Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass.



*After 1/2 way thru the run, the engine is 'dieseling' from compression and the glow of the exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow....

* If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with enough force sufficient to blow the cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half !!

* Dragsters reach over 300 MPH +... before you have completed reading this sentence.

* In order to exceed 300 MPH in 4.5 seconds, a dragster must accelerate an average of over 4 G's. In order to reach 200 MPH well before reaching half-track, at launch the acceleration approaches 8 G's.

* Top Fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light !


* Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load. ( Aiiiii chihuahua !! )

* The redline is actually quite high at 9500 RPM.

* THE BOTTOM LINE: Assuming all the equipment is paid for, the pit crew is working for free, & NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run will cost an estimated $1000 per second.

0 to 100 MPH in .8 seconds (the first 60 feet of the run)

0 to 200 MPH in 2.2 seconds (the first 350 feet of the run)

6 g-forces at the starting line (nothing accelerates faster on land)

6 negative g-forces upon deployment of twin 'chutes at 300 MPH

An NHRA Top Fuel Dragster accelerates quicker than any other land vehicle on earth . . quicker than a jet fighter plane . . . quicker than the space shuttle....or snapping your fingers !!


The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.420 seconds for the quarter-mile (2004, Doug Kalitta). The top speed record is 337.58 MPH as measured over the last 66' of the run (2005, Tony Schumacher).

So, in summary...Let's now put this all into perspective:

Imagine this....You are driving a new $140,000 Lingenfelter twin-turbo powered Corvette Z-06. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged & ready to 'launch' down a quarter-mile strip as you pass.



You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the 'Vette hard, on up through the gears and blast across the starting line, and pass the dragster at an honest 200 MPH.... The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that exact moment.

The dragster departs & starts after you. You keep your foot buried hard to the floor, and suddenly you hear an incredibly brutally screaming whine that seares and pummels your eardrums & within a mere 3 seconds the dragster effortlessly catches & passes you.

He beats you to the finish line, a quarter-mile away from where you just passed him. Think about it - from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 MPH....and it not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the planet when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long race !!!!

That my friends.....is acceleration!
 
I believe Henning commented on this a while back - mostly true if I recall correctly (which is more suspect every day!)
 
It is indeed impressive, but it is not all true.

The dragster departs & starts after you. You keep your foot buried hard to the floor, and suddenly you hear an incredibly brutally screaming whine that seares and pummels your eardrums & within a mere 3 seconds the dragster effortlessly catches & passes you.
Nope. 200 mph = 293.3 fps. 1320 feet / 293.3 = 4.5 seconds for the 'vette to do the quarter. And the world record, according to the email for the quarter, is 4.420 seconds. The rail just barely catches you in time for the checkered flag. And if anyone thinks the rail's motion is effortless.... Yes, Virginia, the language is a little breathless....

I haven't vetted the other statistics.

That my friends.....is acceleration!
No doubt there!

-Skip
 
It is indeed impressive, but it is not all true.


Nope. 200 mph = 293.3 fps. 1320 feet / 293.3 = 4.5 seconds for the 'vette to do the quarter. And the world record, according to the email for the quarter, is 4.420 seconds. The rail just barely catches you in time for the checkered flag. And if anyone thinks the rail's motion is effortless.... Yes, Virginia, the language is a little breathless....

I haven't vetted the other statistics.


No doubt there!

-Skip

4.428 if it's still the record Tony Schumacher set in 06.
 
OK, even if its not completely true.....where can I go to see and hear these beasts?
 
It is indeed impressive, but it is not all true.


Nope. 200 mph = 293.3 fps. 1320 feet / 293.3 = 4.5 seconds for the 'vette to do the quarter. And the world record, according to the email for the quarter, is 4.420 seconds. The rail just barely catches you in time for the checkered flag. ...
200 mph = 293.3 fps doing 1320 feet in 4.5 seconds only if you're doing 200 mph when the Christmas tree turns green. :D

It's a standing start, not a rolling start like Indy. You're at 0 mph at the start.
 
Take hearing protection Dave, you won't believe how loud they are!!:yikes:

The part about nearly a solid mixture in the cylinder is true. When the fire goes out
for any reason it pushes out head gaskets or anything else it can.
My rear engine dragster I had ran 1.09 60ft times and was 140+ at the 1/8 mileand 170 in the quarter. The acceleration was un-believable in that, I can't even imagine what a top fuel car feels like.
 
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200 mph = 293.3 fps doing 1320 feet in 4.5 seconds only if you're doing 200 mph when the Christmas tree turns green. :D

It's a standing start, not a rolling start like Indy. You're at 0 mph at the start.
Mike, read the original email again. The 'vette was clocking "an honest 200 mph" when he passed the Christmas Tree with a running (dare we say "flying"?) start, and maintained that speed for the quarter mile. The dragster started at zero.

-Skip
 
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Mike, read the original email again. The 'vette was clocking "an honest 200 mph" when he passed the Christmas Tree with a running (dare we say "flying"?) start, and maintained that speed for the quarter mile. The dragster started at zero.

-Skip

Me fail reading? Unpossible!
 
that part about the fuel being a solid (liquid?) seemed a little over the top so thanks for confirming, Don.
 
OK, even if its not completely true.....where can I go to see and hear these beasts?

The BEST place is in Indianapolis on Labor Day weekend at the NHRA U.S. Nationals, or any Nationals where they are scheduling AA/TF or FC races at night. Fuel is intensely impressive during the day, but night adds a whole new and awesome dimension to it.
 
thks, greg - letsgo, Spike!

Make sure you get a Pit Pass though. Stand next to a fueler pit when the do the final pit tune and clutch set up before their round. Stand about 3 ft from the pipe if you can, but not in the direct path of the pipe as raw burning fuel is shooting out of them, feel the exhaust pulses just vibrate through every cubic centimeter of your body, if you catch it just right, your insides feel like a tower of Jello being carried by someone with Palsey having a Grand Mal seizure, take a deep whiff....Ahhhhh Nitro...... stand in the exhaust until your eyes are fully pouring out tears and your lungs feel like they're about to blister, that's the full Nitro experience until you suit up and get strapped in and tell your man to engage the starter motor to the blower pulley. Now put on your gas mask and hearing protection.....
 
Take hearing protection Dave, you won't believe how loud they are!!:yikes:

The part about nearly a solid mixture in the cylinder is true. When the fire goes out
for any reason it pushes out head gaskets or anything else it can.
My rear engine dragster I had ran 1.09 60ft times and was 140+ at the 1/8 mileand 170 in the quarter. The acceleration was un-believable in that, I can't even imagine what a top fuel car feels like.

that part about the fuel being a solid (liquid?) seemed a little over the top so thanks for confirming, Don.

Not really, but it does borderline on close. 100% Nitromethane (NHRA has limited Fuel classes to 90% mixed with alcohol) mixes with air at right around 1.7:1 by weight with air when compared to 14.6:1 of Gasoline. In order to actually be able to burn it "solid" in the combustion chamber, you have to blend it with a bit of Hydrazine, and if Tech Inspection finds that, you're disqualified. It does make nifty rocket and ramjet fuel though.
 
Make sure you get a Pit Pass though. Stand next to a fueler pit when the do the final pit tune and clutch set up before their round. Stand about 3 ft from the pipe if you can, but not in the direct path of the pipe as raw burning fuel is shooting out of them, feel the exhaust pulses just vibrate through every cubic centimeter of your body, if you catch it just right, your insides feel like a tower of Jello being carried by someone with Palsey having a Grand Mal seizure, take a deep whiff....Ahhhhh Nitro...... stand in the exhaust until your eyes are fully pouring out tears and your lungs feel like they're about to blister, that's the full Nitro experience until you suit up and get strapped in and tell your man to engage the starter motor to the blower pulley. Now put on your gas mask and hearing protection.....


Ahhh, The sights, the sounds, the SMELLS..... It is almost better then sex.. Ya seen it on TV, take my word for it, one cannot experience a fuel burning drag race till you are there and close to the action... It is almost as exciting as flying my experimental plane with a V-8 racing engine in it.. And I ain't got no parachute either:nonod:
 
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