Meigs Field

Dale Young

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I never got a chance to fly into this cool airfield although I always wanted to. I recently (5 min ago) decided to look up old photos and see what I missed. MAN! What a SHAME.. And to read about the debacle that Mayor Daley created. This guy not only ruined a great airfield, He destroyed a piece of Americana. Daley,... You're an A##HOLE.
 
I got to land there once and get it into my logbook. No argument about Daley. Most of the pilots in the Chicago area are still annoyed at how this all went down.
 
I read that he did it so that there would be some restriction on the airspace, But it actually turned Delta class airspace into Golf.
 
I read that he did it so that there would be some restriction on the airspace, But it actually turned Delta class airspace into Golf.
He gave a lame excuse about protecting the airspace around the downtown. But no one bought that. Not a single news source in the area gave any credence to his statement at all. The best theory is that he wanted the land for casino and latter for the Olympics. Now what he needs and is trying to get built is a helo pad to serve downtown.
 
Have you personally been to the airfield before and after? If so, is it better now that it is'nt an airfield?
 
Have you personally been to the airfield before and after? If so, is it better now that it is'nt an airfield?
I have been there before and I have flown by it after.

Now it is a big park with a stage for concerts. Pretty pathetic and far away from the much nice concert venue in Grant park. It is very sad to see, it is not an improvement IMHO. I still give my position report to MDW when I need to transit their airspace as by Meigs.
 
Meigs was awesome, I flew there many times for days/nights/weekends in the city. I wish it was still there.

But... anytime I visited CGX, I was astonished at the lack of traffic and people. In fact, most of the time, the place was a ghost town. I recall that near the closing - commercial flights had dropped to one departure/arrival to/from Springfield per day.

It is my belief that Meigs was vastly under-developed for both GA and commercial flight, and as a result was under-utilized. This helped lead to the public apathy which indirectly supported Daley's efforts to close Meigs.

Consider the following:

-With a few exceptions (police and govt type helicopters), I don't think anyone was allowed to base at Meigs.
-I do not recall any privately owned (individual or business) hangars.
-There certainly were not any businesses operating at the airport
-At 3900 feet, Meigs was not a long airport. 3900 feet is great for us piston and turboprop pilots, but as far as jets go, only Citations could regularly use the airport. Then, the runway was shortened by about 500 feet with the North-most 500 feet becoming displaced threshold for RWY18.
-For years, CGX did not have an instrument approach with low minimums. There was a visual-type procedure that followed one of the expressways, and I believe a VOR-A approach off of the Chicago Heights VOR.

As a result of the above, none of GA's biggest and wealthiest advocates - corporations were based at Meigs. So they did not have much at stake in the closing.

In addition, many GA pilots I spoke with were deterred by the takeoff/landing fees (which were pretty high, around $25-50). IMHO - I believe they were reasonable considering a few hours of parking your car in a parking garage downtown would have cost $20-30.

Trying to look at the brightside of things...
#1. The land is still there, and largely undeveloped. Aside from the crappy looking pavillion/bleachers (http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/8449983.jpg) for the music amphitheater, it is largely a prairie with walking trails. As a result, it would be very feasible to pour a new runway someday.

#2. I do like the 12th Street Beach. It is quite empty given its remoteness, and the high cost of parking near the observatory. Pretty ironic given that one of Daley's arguments was to give the land back to the people, not the privledged few wealthy (pilots).
 
Pretty ironic given that one of Daley's arguments was to give the land back to the people, not the privledged few wealthy (pilots).
One of Daley's arguments was that Meigs did not fit the master plan of Daniel Bunham. Daley was sort of right on that. Burnham never envisioned an airport on Northerly island. He envisioned it in Grant Park!!!
 
-At 3900 feet, Meigs was not a long airport. 3900 feet is great for us piston and turboprop pilots, but as far as jets go, only Citations could regularly use the airport. Then, the runway was shortened by about 500 feet with the North-most 500 feet becoming displaced threshold for RWY18.

Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry has a United Boeing 727 in their Transportation exhibit. It is a pretty good exhibit, with cutaways of some areas of the floor, etc. http://www.msichicago.org/whats-here/exhibits/transportation-gallery/

Anyway, we went there over the holidays, and they have a video of the 727 landing at Meigs - it was actually kind of an ugly bounced landing, but I can't blame they guy. They then took it on a barge south to the Museum, pulled it across Lake Shore Drive (similar to the German WWII submarine U-505), removed the wings, and prepared it for the exhibit. Very nicely done.

I couldn't get over just how manual the cockpit was. My CFII was a 727 flight engineer for AA, and told me a few stories from his time in that great aircraft.
 
Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry has a United Boeing 727 in their Transportation exhibit. It is a pretty good exhibit, with cutaways of some areas of the floor, etc. http://www.msichicago.org/whats-here/exhibits/transportation-gallery/

I have a couple of hour/flights in that airplane as a Flight Engineer. It was still on the line when I got hired in '89.

Anyway, we went there over the holidays, and they have a video of the 727 landing at Meigs - it was actually kind of an ugly bounced landing, but I can't blame they guy.

I "heard" that they damaged the plane because of that.

As an aside, we had some time to kill after a Proficiency Check one day and I asked to see if I could land the 777 sim there. Light weight, and a tad bit of wind on the nose, and it wasn't a problem at all.

Very nicely done.

Yes it is.
 
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