Don Jones
Line Up and Wait
Apologies if this has been discussed before, but I searched and couldn't find it so here goes.
I was having a discussion the other day with a FSDO examiner and he posed a question to me. He asked if and instructor could send a student to the instrument checkride with exactly 40 hours of logged instrument time(simulated or actual). He said no, saying the 3 hours of instrument training from the private do not count. Looking over the regs it says 40 hours simulated or actual, and 15 hours from an authorized instructor. Anyone want to point me to that regulation? Is it because a student pilot is unable to log the time as pic?
The way I see it, a private pilot could log 25 hours with a CFI or a safety pilot, then get the required 15 hours from a CFII, do the x-country with the CFII, get the sign off and he's good to go. Wrong?
Boy will I be glad when this checkride is over!!!
Just a couple of more days
(d) Aeronautical experience. A person who applies for an instrument rating must have logged the following:
(1) At least 50 hours of cross-country flight time as pilot in command, of which at least 10 hours must be in airplanes for an instrument—airplane rating; and
(2) A total of 40 hours of actual or simulated instrument time on the areas of operation of this section, to include—
(i) At least 15 hours of instrument flight training from an authorized instructor in the aircraft category for which the instrument rating is sought;
(ii) At least 3 hours of instrument training that is appropriate to the instrument rating sought from an authorized instructor in preparation for the practical test within the 60 days preceding the date of the test;
(iii) For an instrument—airplane rating, instrument training on cross- country flight procedures specific to airplanes that includes at least one cross-country flight in an airplane that is performed under IFR, and consists of—
(A) A distance of at least 250 nautical miles along airways or ATC-directed routing;
( An instrument approach at each airport; and
(C) Three different kinds of approaches with the use of navigation systems;
I was having a discussion the other day with a FSDO examiner and he posed a question to me. He asked if and instructor could send a student to the instrument checkride with exactly 40 hours of logged instrument time(simulated or actual). He said no, saying the 3 hours of instrument training from the private do not count. Looking over the regs it says 40 hours simulated or actual, and 15 hours from an authorized instructor. Anyone want to point me to that regulation? Is it because a student pilot is unable to log the time as pic?
The way I see it, a private pilot could log 25 hours with a CFI or a safety pilot, then get the required 15 hours from a CFII, do the x-country with the CFII, get the sign off and he's good to go. Wrong?
Boy will I be glad when this checkride is over!!!
Just a couple of more days
(d) Aeronautical experience. A person who applies for an instrument rating must have logged the following:
(1) At least 50 hours of cross-country flight time as pilot in command, of which at least 10 hours must be in airplanes for an instrument—airplane rating; and
(2) A total of 40 hours of actual or simulated instrument time on the areas of operation of this section, to include—
(i) At least 15 hours of instrument flight training from an authorized instructor in the aircraft category for which the instrument rating is sought;
(ii) At least 3 hours of instrument training that is appropriate to the instrument rating sought from an authorized instructor in preparation for the practical test within the 60 days preceding the date of the test;
(iii) For an instrument—airplane rating, instrument training on cross- country flight procedures specific to airplanes that includes at least one cross-country flight in an airplane that is performed under IFR, and consists of—
(A) A distance of at least 250 nautical miles along airways or ATC-directed routing;
( An instrument approach at each airport; and
(C) Three different kinds of approaches with the use of navigation systems;
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