Information about Amelia Earhart's location.

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    I have seen handsome men and think to myself, that is a handsome man. I am not attracted to men at all, but I do compare. Same as my wife will see a pretty lady and say the same thing. Then she will turn to me and ask, "Do you think she is prettier than me..??" At that time I pray to be struck by lightning or hit by a meteor....

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    Hi, palmpilot, new member here, Amelias electra would have ditched under power. She would not run out of gas and dead stick in.. So her plane would float for long time with empty tanks and minimal damage ( ditching at about 80 knots into calm seas ) her polished silver plane would reflect sunlight like nobodys business in daylight hours. Those reflections would have enabled the searchers to locate her within a reasonable amount of time i would certainly think. So i don't think she landed anywhere near the crashed and sank location that is generally accepted.
     
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    Regarding whether she ditched under power. You're guessing. My guess would be that she knew she was close to land and exhausted her fuel searching for the island. Can't finish a 'round the world trip if you take the airplane swimming...

    Regarding whether her plane would have floated. Amelia wasn't known for being a great stick and rudder pilot. Depending on how smoothly she ditched, her plane could have floated for hours or could have sank like a stone if she mismanaged the landing and tore the airplane up.

    Regarding her "polished Electra". The airplane was natural aluminum and had been subject to the rigors of two attempted around the world flights, so it was likely to have been tarnished by that time. Tarnished aluminum is not a great reflector. Beyond that, what are the chances it had even been washed at any time during her unsuccessful 'round the world attempt?

    My belief is she went down within a hundred or so miles of Howland. Why? The radio transmissions. My belief is also that the plane sank before any searchers arrived on scene. The aerial search didn't occur until over a week after the airplane went down, and Earhart and Noonan either came to a bad end during that week or the abbreviated aerial search missed them.

    And then, there are the theories about the Japanese that I discount because of the strong signal strength reported by the Itasca. She was nowhere near Japanese held islands at that time.
     
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    Hello, jnmeade,

    Hi, new member here, Amelias electra would have ditched under power. She would not run out of gas and dead stick in.. So her plane would float for long time with empty tanks and minimal damage ( ditching at about 80 knots into calm seas ) her polished silver plane would reflect sunlight like nobodys business in daylight hours. Those reflections would have enabled the searchers to locate her within a reasonable amount of time i would certainly think. So i don't think she landed anywhere near the crashed and sank location that is generally accepted.
     
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    hello,kyleb, thanks for fast response, here is a resource to examine,

    Amelia Earhart's Crash Reconstruction
    https://www.niar.wichita.edu/.../AmeliaEarhartsCrashReconstruction/tabid/.../Default.as
    whether or not Amelia Earhart would have survived ditching her aircraft in the Pacific. Activities included the development of a finite element model of the Lockheed Electra and the simulation of the ditching event using ALE techniques.

    .
     
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    Hi Palmpilot,

    Amelias electra would have ditched under power. She would not run out of gas and dead stick in.. So her plane would float for long time with empty tanks and minimal damage ( ditching at about 80 knots into calm seas ) her polished silver plane would reflect sunlight like nobodys business in daylight hours. Those reflections would have enabled the searchers to locate her within a reasonable amount of time i would certainly think. So i don't think she landed anywhere near the crashed and sank location that is generally accepted.
     
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    Ok,got it, here is new info just dug up on google.
    AMELIAS DITCHING SCENARIOS.. http://www.engr.utexas.edu/features/6730-ameliaearhart

    Led by aerospace engineering senior, Vishnu Jyothindran, the students will conduct a flotation analysis that examines two scenarios under the assumption her plane landed in the ocean. The first is a center of gravity study that assumes she was able to safely land the plane in the ocean by flaring the plane, a technique used by pilots to gently land an aircraft by pointing its nose upwards before touch down. The students will try to determine how far the plane would glide before sinking and then how far it would float at sea, assuming the natural half-mile drift of the ocean.

    The second scenario, which Thompson says is more probable, assumes that she wouldn't have had the strength and time to flare the plane, especially given that fuel tanks would be nearly empty and all the plane’s weight would be at its front, causing it to fly at a downward, slanted angle. If the plane went down in this manner, Thompson said it would have flipped violently and broken up on impact.
     
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    So you think she would not run out of gas but you also think her plane would float because of empty tanks. Makes sense to me!
     
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    Here it comes...

    "Hi, SkyDog58, new member here, Amelias electra would have ditched under power. She would not run out of gas and dead stick in.. So her plane would float for long time with empty tanks and minimal damage ( ditching at about 80 knots into calm seas ) her polished silver plane would reflect sunlight like nobodys business in daylight hours. Those reflections would have enabled the searchers to locate her within a reasonable amount of time i would certainly think. So i don't think she landed anywhere near the crashed and sank location that is generally accepted."
     
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    Hello kyleb, just found this pre(last) flight photo looks pretty polished to me.
     
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    Hello SkyDog, Amelia would not run here tanks to empty and then attempt a dead stick landing in the ocean.. She would leave enough fuel to ditch with engines under power. This means the electra would be doing about 80 knots upon touchdown giving her a good shot at surviving the landing.
     
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    If only she had dumped fuel prior to ditching. She would have been lighter and could have extended her range.

    (Sorry, PB reference. Ain't gonna explain it, but it was hilarious!!)
     
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    Hello kyle, found another photo can compare two. first, Amelia Earhart with her Electra 10E, NR16020, at Lockheed Aircraft
    Company, Burbank, California, December 1936.. second, last photo last flight.
     

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