AdamZ
Touchdown! Greaser!
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Adam Zucker
Right now I am sick to my stomach. Not one hour ago I helped my very good friend and regular flying companion get off from KLOM to KUNV. He was flying his daughter and two of her friends back to Penn State after the holiday. I was supposed to take a family photo by the plane for them which didn't happen cause his daughter and her friends were late getting to the field but thats irrelevant cause time was not a factor here.
Anyway as he fires up the lance on the ramp with the three girls in the plane I was standing next to his wife and younger daughter on the Pax side of the plane and I see liquid streamng out of what I thought was the cowl sump on the Pax side of the Lance. ( note the Lance does not have a sump pitcock on the cowl) as the plane kicks over it stops but I run in front of the plane ( no prop danger where I was) and give him the shut down sign. he shuts down and I saw the stream again. It looked like from the Pilot side it was comming from the front gear door. Then it stopped. He opened the small window and I told him what I saw. I suggested he start it up again. Some liquid leaked out but then stopped. I suggested he run it on the ramp for a minuite as if any liquid blew back I would have enough time to see it splash and accumulate to on the ground. I saw nothing after a about a minuite and a half and gave him the thumbs up. I thought perhaps he over primed it and the excess was just venting.
I followed his flight to KUNV on Flight aware and it took a bit longer than the usual 50 min flight was actually about 1:07. Then I figured He'd be back in about an hour or an hour and a half as he planed on adding about 20 gal out there. He had more than enough for the flight and reserves but went a bit lighter b/c of the weight.
Then about 20 min after he lands at KUNV I get a call from him. hes not comming back tonight the plane has a fuel leak. UGH! Apparently it happens when the boost pump goes on? He was 12 nm out State College and looks down and sees one tank dry and 10 gal in the other.
Thankfully he landed safely and uneventfully and tried to Dx the fuel leak. Weird thing was his right gauge showed empty but the dial on the right wing showed 15 gallons and the right gauge showed 10 gal but the wing dial gauge showed 25 gal. I know you should't rely on the gauges but I don't thing the panel gauges and wings dial gauges should be that far off.
Either way I felt like crap! Why would I just assume that the fuel was from over priming? Stupid assumption. The fact that it stopped at some point lead me further down the road of "it is fine" Ironically this is so unlike me I'm usually neurotic about an saftey issue. I think that the fuel acutally evaporated in the prop wash while my buddy was letting it run on the ramp. 100LL evaporates in seconds. Why wouldn't I realize that? Its not going to splash back on the ground.
Stoopid Stoopid Stoopid. I really felt like I let my friend down. I don't know perhaps the time did have something to do with it. Perhaps I would not have felt like I should just let him get on his way. I also recognize he could have gotten out of the plane and looked and let me turn it over.
Well learn what you can from this.
Anyway as he fires up the lance on the ramp with the three girls in the plane I was standing next to his wife and younger daughter on the Pax side of the plane and I see liquid streamng out of what I thought was the cowl sump on the Pax side of the Lance. ( note the Lance does not have a sump pitcock on the cowl) as the plane kicks over it stops but I run in front of the plane ( no prop danger where I was) and give him the shut down sign. he shuts down and I saw the stream again. It looked like from the Pilot side it was comming from the front gear door. Then it stopped. He opened the small window and I told him what I saw. I suggested he start it up again. Some liquid leaked out but then stopped. I suggested he run it on the ramp for a minuite as if any liquid blew back I would have enough time to see it splash and accumulate to on the ground. I saw nothing after a about a minuite and a half and gave him the thumbs up. I thought perhaps he over primed it and the excess was just venting.
I followed his flight to KUNV on Flight aware and it took a bit longer than the usual 50 min flight was actually about 1:07. Then I figured He'd be back in about an hour or an hour and a half as he planed on adding about 20 gal out there. He had more than enough for the flight and reserves but went a bit lighter b/c of the weight.
Then about 20 min after he lands at KUNV I get a call from him. hes not comming back tonight the plane has a fuel leak. UGH! Apparently it happens when the boost pump goes on? He was 12 nm out State College and looks down and sees one tank dry and 10 gal in the other.
Thankfully he landed safely and uneventfully and tried to Dx the fuel leak. Weird thing was his right gauge showed empty but the dial on the right wing showed 15 gallons and the right gauge showed 10 gal but the wing dial gauge showed 25 gal. I know you should't rely on the gauges but I don't thing the panel gauges and wings dial gauges should be that far off.
Either way I felt like crap! Why would I just assume that the fuel was from over priming? Stupid assumption. The fact that it stopped at some point lead me further down the road of "it is fine" Ironically this is so unlike me I'm usually neurotic about an saftey issue. I think that the fuel acutally evaporated in the prop wash while my buddy was letting it run on the ramp. 100LL evaporates in seconds. Why wouldn't I realize that? Its not going to splash back on the ground.
Stoopid Stoopid Stoopid. I really felt like I let my friend down. I don't know perhaps the time did have something to do with it. Perhaps I would not have felt like I should just let him get on his way. I also recognize he could have gotten out of the plane and looked and let me turn it over.
Well learn what you can from this.