Flying with a puppy

Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by pilotjlr, Jan 25, 2015.

  1. pilotjlr

    pilotjlr Pre-Flight

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2014
    Messages:
    36
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    james
    Hi all,

    The wife and I are considering buying a puppy from a breeder a couple states away. It would be a several hour drive going through a couple big cities, but only a 1:20 flight in the Cessna 210.

    I'm a little hesitant to bring a puppy on the relatively loud 210, though. The puppy would be in the back seat with my wife, which I think will allow us to handle anxiety, but I don't want to put the dog's hearing at risk.

    Does anyone have any experience or insight with this? I'll ask our vet as well, but would appreciate anyone else's thoughts.

    Thanks
     
  2. Marauder

    Marauder Cleared for Takeoff

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2012
    Messages:
    1,464
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Marauder

    I fly Pilots N Paws rescues. The pup will be fine. Will sleep through the flight.
     
  3. Stewartb

    Stewartb Final Approach

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2014
    Messages:
    6,765
    Location:
    Wasilla, AK
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    stewartb
    Mutt Muffs work great. My dog never objected to them and looks forward to seeing them because it means she gets to go.

    Start 'em young.
     

    Attached Files:

  4. Unit74

    Unit74 Final Approach

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2014
    Messages:
    6,632
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Unit74
    I just flew 1.5 or so each way to get a Whippet.


    Get a small dog crate, put some crappy towels in it. The dog will probably pee and crap. It will probably howel and yelp, so try to keep your radio traffic down. After a while, it will settle down.

    Upon arrival, the dog might very well have crap on their coat, so don't take it out till your designated at home or whatever. Into the bath they go.
     
  5. James331

    James331 Ejection Handle Pulled

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2014
    Messages:
    20,310
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    James331
    Mutt muffs are kinda a waste IMO.

    I've flown my min pin in the 185 quite a few times, she just sleeps.

    Get a SOFT kennel, walmart sells a nice folding one with a waterproof bottom.

    For water give the little guy a ice cube, it won't spill and won't let the pup drink too much at a time.
     
  6. Stewartb

    Stewartb Final Approach

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2014
    Messages:
    6,765
    Location:
    Wasilla, AK
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    stewartb
    Do you wear headset? Are those a waste?

    My last dog was stone deaf in his last years. This one's got more flying time and still has exceptional hearing. Mutt Muffs are not a waste. They're required equipment in my airplane.
     
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2015
  7. ytodd

    ytodd Pre-takeoff checklist

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    347
    Location:
    Peoria, IL.
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    ....
    x2 :cornut:
     
  8. ja_user

    ja_user Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2010
    Messages:
    2,005
    Location:
    Kixd
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Sam
    500FPM climbs and descents, other than that.. Just make sure they relieve themselves first and it is preferred if you have a crate.
     
  9. RyanB

    RyanB Administrator Management Council Member PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    12,773
    Location:
    Chattanooga, TN
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Ryan
    I don't think you would have any problems, as others here have mentioned Pilots N Paws, which do this kind of operation. Anyway if you do have concern, you could bring a small carrying crate for them and put a couple blankets over it to block out some of the noise. Chances are it will sleep right through it, good luck!
     
  10. Geico266

    Geico266 Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2008
    Messages:
    19,144
    Location:
    Husker Nation, NE
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Geico
  11. poadeleted20

    poadeleted20 Deleted

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2005
    Messages:
    31,266
    Just make sure the puppy is crated with a good pile of towels on the floor of the crate. And yes, like Marauder, I've hauled plenty of puppies for PnP.
     
  12. poadeleted20

    poadeleted20 Deleted

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2005
    Messages:
    31,266
    Varies with the dog, and if you get ones that fit now, they won't fit in six months.
     
  13. EdFred

    EdFred Taxi to Parking

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2005
    Messages:
    25,824
    Location:
    Michigan
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Ed Frederick
    Or like with my dog, they fit fine, but he paws them off right away.
     
  14. bburnett

    bburnett Pre-takeoff checklist

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2013
    Messages:
    147
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Bryan B PA30
    We have mutt muffs for the bloodhounds but they usually take them off. You can carefully put cotton in their ears. The wife has been doing this for years. Just don't forget to take it out.

    You can get two 125 lb. bloodhounds in the back of a 172.
     
  15. FlyGirlKHWO

    FlyGirlKHWO Pre-takeoff checklist

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2013
    Messages:
    202
    Location:
    Delray Beach, FL
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    FlyGirl
    My Westie has flown many a mile in my Tiger, and falls asleep within minutes of hitting cruise. The Lab I recently flew on a rescue mission didn't sleep but laid down in the backseat and completely relaxed.

    No Muffs, no muss. Your mileage may vary.
     
  16. poadeleted20

    poadeleted20 Deleted

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2005
    Messages:
    31,266
    BTW, the three Chihuahuas I hauled a couple of weeks ago for PnP started yapping the second I put them in the crate, and didn't shut up again until they got out of the plane. Bloody annoying, but fortunately very rare behavior.
     
  17. timwinters

    timwinters Ejection Handle Pulled PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2008
    Messages:
    13,737
    Location:
    Conway, MO
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    LTD
    Mutt Muffs suck!

    (how many times am I going to say this here before getting sued?)

    OH (that's right) IN MY OPINION...Mutt Muffs suck!

    They are nothing more than a "feel good" item for the owners. They do very little to deaden sound and the seals are far too thin to conform to varied doggie heads. Steward, put them on yourself (if they're big enough) and you'll see that they do nothing. I had a XL set for my GSD and could put them on (they fit quite well actually). I could still clearly hear my wife speaking in a soft tone from across our 50' wide great room. They do nothing.

    If you want something that might afford your dog some real protection then check out http://www.4pawsaviation.com/

    It's my experience that a dog will fly very similarly to how he rides in a car.

    My GSD has over 250 hours logged. Most of them wearing Mutt Muffs. Too bad they're not worth the effort.
     
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2015
  18. Stewartb

    Stewartb Final Approach

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2014
    Messages:
    6,765
    Location:
    Wasilla, AK
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    stewartb
    You're welcome to your opinion. I offered mine. My dog goes with me 99% of the time. Her hearing after 8 years is doing significantly better then her two predecessors at the same age. Mutt Muffs seem to be doing what they're supposed to.
     
  19. sourdough44

    sourdough44 Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2011
    Messages:
    2,174
    Location:
    Wisconsin
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    WI Flyer
    I see no problems. I would bring a crate and have it available if needed. That was one of my plans when we were looking and thinking about a German Shepherd pup. Then we picked our dog up locally.
     

    Attached Files:

  20. N747JB

    N747JB Final Approach

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2011
    Messages:
    6,091
    Location:
    Atlanta
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    John
    I'd take a crate, lots of towels and fly that puppy home! The crate is more to contain the bodily functions that hold the dog, the dog will likely sleep most of the way. :D All my dogs have flown with me, like small kids they usually go to sleep 10 minutes after take off and sleep til we land. :wink2:
     
  21. bburnett

    bburnett Pre-takeoff checklist

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2013
    Messages:
    147
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Bryan B PA30
    We always take towels, blankets and a bag of cleaning supplies. If we use a rental it is always clean before we turn it in. No hair or slobber.
     
  22. jesse

    jesse Touchdown! Greaser!

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2005
    Messages:
    15,775
    Location:
    Lincoln, NE
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    Jesse
    I've flown my lab in airplanes several times with no side effects. His hearing is still incredibly sharp. I've flown puppies quite a few times and have never put hearing protection on them. Most dogs will be more upset about an object clamped on their head than the noise.

    All the animal rescue flights I've never seen involve ear protection. If you were flying the dog 8 hours a day 5 days a week then I might worry about the hearing but one flight as a puppy is nothing.
     
  23. timwinters

    timwinters Ejection Handle Pulled PoA Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2008
    Messages:
    13,737
    Location:
    Conway, MO
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    LTD
    Hmmmm..I thought they flew you! :goofy:
    [​IMG]
     
  24. pilotjlr

    pilotjlr Pre-Flight

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2014
    Messages:
    36
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    james
    Thanks very much! I appreciate everyone's feedback. The flight is on.
     
  25. KSCessnaDriver

    KSCessnaDriver Pattern Altitude

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2008
    Messages:
    2,173
    Location:
    C62
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    KSCessnaDriver
    I had 3 Chihuahuas on a PnP flight this past fall, that were probably the best puppies I took over the course of the 3 or 4 flights I did. They were so quiet, while loading the big dogs in the back of the aircraft, I moved them up to the front with me. Totally quiet the whole time, even when I let them out for a a bit.
     
  26. pilotjlr

    pilotjlr Pre-Flight

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2014
    Messages:
    36
    Display Name:

    Display name:
    james
    We did the flight yesterday, and it went great. Though we brought clean up supplies, toys, blankets, etc, the puppy fell asleep soon after takeoff and slept all the way home. Way better than a 6+ hour drive.