Car Brand Stereotypes

Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by ARFlyer, Apr 19, 2015.

  1. Everskyward

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    My former Subaru was made in Indiana. The current one was imported from Japan.
     
  2. Alexb2000

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    Why? If the government would have held the stock a little longer the tax payers would have gotten off free and saved a lot of jobs and a major U.S. company, I don't blame GM for that.
     
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    When my Boxster needs, say, brakes, I go to TiresPlus and get a written estimate. Then I take it to my Porsche dealer, which will match local shops. I take it in late Friday, get a loaner, which is usually a new Cayenne but is sometimes a new Boxster or Panamera, drive it for the weekend for free, and then pick up the Boxster Monday afternoon. All this for the TiresPlus price.

    Every once in a while I feel guilty and put gas in the loaner car.
     
  4. weilke

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    Depends on which one you buy. Some models are built in the US, some are imported (some of the US built models are quite different from what is available in japan and europe).

    Same with the koreans. The Soul I looked at yesterday had a 1% domestic parts content and was 86% korean. The optimas which are assembled in the US have a 45% domestic content.
     
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    Here in New York State we have figured out the only solution to gridlock is kill off as many drivers as possible. You can see the implementation in practice. No studded tires, really crappy roads, and now they want to give drivers licenses to 1.5 million illegals, most of whom can't read or write and never have insurance.
     
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    Actually, studded tires are legal here in the Empire State from October 16 through April 30.

    Rich
     
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    I always get guys in lifted trucks trying to race me. Same with guys in riced out Hondas.
     
  8. denverpilot

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    They should have been dead and their assets picked over by their competitors. They're scum for expecting the public to support their failure, even if it luckily turned out to be temporary. Of course the government crushing plenty of workable used vehicles in Cash for Clunkers helped too.
     
  9. timwinters

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    No different that what was done for Ford in the '80s. Completely different methodology but the government (prez) stepped in to save them from bankruptcy. Ford got the largest government bailout in history.
     
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    Yes. And that was wrong, too. Your point?

    I'm really tired of the "two wrongs makes it right" excuse.

    No offense, Tim. But it has to stop someday.

    "Too big to fail" is cronyism at its worst. Crapitalism I call it. Crony-Capitalism.
     
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    My point being that a lot of people proudly say they're buying Fords (or whatever) because they're not "government motors." Ford ran ads stating that they didn't accept bailout money...this was laughable and hypocritical after what went down in the '80s.

    And then, every car mfgr blackmails local governments into giving them huge tax credits in exchange for building a plant in their state/town. Actually not every car mfgr...every freakin' mfgr, period. Some of those incentive packages are outrageously huge. And they are no different than the GM bailout.

    I'm not defending any of it. Just saying that calling out...singling out...GM is disingenuous at best.
     
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    That is certainly how all the US manufacturing operations of international car-makers were incentivized.
     
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    Some of these comments about GM seem very myopic. The world is the competition and other governments are FULLY supporting private enterprise. There is no way to compete with countries like China, Korea, India, etc. without government help. If that takes a bailout then so be it. The biggest challenge is employing average citizens at a livable wage, auto plants do that very well, and everyone outside the U.S. appreciates that fact. We've seen car companies like Kia and Hyundai coming from no where and pushing out the europeans and really hurting the Japanese. Soon we'll have Tata taking a chunk. IF we're smart we should support our auto makers.
     
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    Sure there is. Tariffs.
     
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    I finally got around to doing this today. It feels a bit smoother, but it was smooth before, so I really can't say how much is placebo. But the sound level... wow, the Red Line really quieted things down. I didn't think it was especially noisy with the stock fluid, but now it's like silent.

    It's kind of funny, actually. I drove around for a while and found I was shifting later than I usually do. I'd been using the whine pitch as an aural tachometer without even realizing it.

    Rich
     
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    I'm finally downsized somewhat recently, too. A couple months ago I had
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