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[wsuffa]

And yet another threat to legitimate flight training....

Link to article

Think about the implications of a law/rule...

U.S. citizens who are on the government’s list of people banned from flying because they’re considered terror threats are not prevented from learning how to fly in schools around the country, according to government regulations.
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“I was stunned. That just caught me completely off guard, and I’m pretty angry about it,” Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Ala., said after the hearing. “Everybody should be concerned.”
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Rogers, chairman of the subcommittee that held Wednesday’s hearing, said he plans to raise this with the head of the TSA, and if the agency can’t fix the problem, he plans to introduce legislation that would.

 

[steingar]

Manufactured problem. Even if some potential terrorist leans to fly a Cessna, the cockpit doors will keep humor her out of an airliner. Yeah, they can crash Cessnas into things. We've all seen how effective that is.

 

[comanchepilot]

wouldn't it just to be easier for a state sponsor of terrorism to give a trained foreign pilot a false id that was a good id - and have that name apply for reciprocal privileges with the FAA? They could then always disclaim the id, say it was false or stolen - end of problem for them.

Our 'security apparatus' has not spent a lot of time trying to get into bars when they were underage - there is a deep lack of appreciation for the common sense solutions to the problems they are trying to prevent . . .

 

[wsuffa]

It's more about controlling US Citizens than it is about furriners.

 

[Anthony]

It's more about controlling US Citizens than it is about furriners.

Absolutely. They won't be satisfied until we are under surveillance 24/7. The problem is the media, and many individuals support this stuff in the name of "safety", and security.

 

[Old Geek]

From the article:

"“Keep in mind, the way the program is set up, there’s layered security in place,” Wilson said, adding that once someone receives a flight certificate, he or she is screened against other criminal and terrorism databases regularly."

I, for one, welcome our new screening overlords....

 

[Chip Sylverne]

It's more about controlling US Citizens than it is about furriners.

Sounds more to me like somebody trying to get attention by "pointing out a clear and present danger" prior to an election.

 

[ClimbnSink]

From the article:

"“Keep in mind, the way the program is set up, there’s layered security in place,” Wilson said, adding that once someone receives a flight certificate, he or she is screened against other criminal and terrorism databases regularly."

I, for one, welcome our new screening overlords....

If a pilot trips the terror trigger what are they going to do? Revoke their pilots cert? That'll work.

 

[AuntPeggy]

I saw this being promo'd on Fox yesterday amid some hysteria. Didn't have the chance to actually listen to the story, but heard the fear-mongering at least 4 times.

 

[Anthony]

It was all over CNN when I was at the gym. They won't show Fox, so when I'm there I'm stuck with CNN or the Young and the Restless.

Most people don't remember that "Victor" was previously Captain Dietrich on "The Rat Patrol."

 

[Bob Noel]

It was all over CNN when I was at the gym. They won't show Fox, so when I'm there I'm stuck with CNN or the Young and the Restless.

Most people don't remember that "Victor" was previously Captain Dietrich on "The Rat Patrol."

1) oh crap, I knew that. I feel old.

2) Victor is still on that soap?

3) double crap that I knew he was on the soap.

 

[Papa Foxtrot]

1) oh crap, I knew that. I feel old.

2) Victor is still on that soap?

3) double crap that I knew he was on the soap.

I know the feeling. My lovely wife is a YnR fan - she dvr's it and I generally stay out of the room while she's watching. Curiousity got the better of me, so I checked imdb.com. Eric Braeden (born Hans Jörg Gudegast in Kiel, Germany) is 71 years old...

 

[poadeleted21]

The HORROR!!! People named John Jones can fly Cessna 150s!!!!!!!! DUCK AND COVER! DUCK AND COVER!!!!!

I have a friend named John Jones... He doesn't fly on the airlines much.

 

[JeffDG]

It's more about controlling US Citizens than it is about furriners.

Except us furriners already have to be screened by our TSA overlords.

 

[write-stuff]

Reminds me of a "security loophole" that was uncovered in an "investigative report" by this moron named Dale Cardwell in Atlanta some years back. He had made the chilling discovery that airplanes were flying in and out of PDK, at will, and not on flight plans. People were actually coming and going freely at the airport!!

The average media reporter doesn't have a clue about the workings of general aviation and is only interested in raising the blood pressure of the unenlightened public.

 

[DaleB]

Reminds me of a "security loophole" that was uncovered in an "investigative report" by this moron named Dale Cardwell in Atlanta some years back. He had made the chilling discovery that airplanes were flying in and out of PDK, at will, and not on flight plans. People were actually coming and going freely at the airport!!

The average media reporter doesn't have a clue about the workings of general aviation and is only interested in raising the blood pressure of the unenlightened public.

Yeah... they are so accustomed to being treated like criminal cattle when flying on airliners that they are completely shocked to learn that people can fly without that kind of crap.

But I have to wonder how much "spoilsport envy" comes into play. You know... i get inconvenienced, interrogated, searched, irradiated and have to wear this orange jump suit when I fly, how come that guy doesn't have to? No fair!

 

[Palmpilot]

People don't think things through. This whole idea of controlling who can get flight training in the U.S. is silly, because there's no way to prevent a terrorist from going to a foreign country to get flight training.

 

[PuertoRicoFlyer]

Sounds more to me like somebody trying to get attention by "pointing out a clear and present danger" prior to an election.

And the media using it for higher ratings and ad revenues.

 

[mikea]

The loophole on the NBC report was that a terrist on the no-fly list will not be able to get a "license," but that doesn't keep them from flying a plane!

Neither does keeping people out of flight training.

(You know. If you don't have a license you can't drive a car, as about 1 in 5 cars coming by my window know. I sat in traffic court watching the assembly line of "No license. Pay $50. No insurance. pay $50. Violation. Pay $75. Pay the clerk." and then they drove out of the parking lot.)

 

[bbchien]

"I'm sorry Osama, we could not carry out the attack. There were too may regulations in place".

 

[Tom-D]

"I'm sorry Osama, we could not carry out the attack. There were too may regulations in place".

When every flyer is outlawed, only outlaws will fly.

 

[Meanee]

Great, let's focus on something completely small, blow it out of proportion, while ignoring other problems.

I am sure hot-wiring a plane is not that much of a big deal. What's next, DNA test if I want to buy Flight Simulator? End result, someone who WANTS to do evil, will find a way to do it.

Instead, how about focusing more on fixing horribly broken airport screenings? I successfully carried a folding box cutter round trip, from NY to Dallas in my carryon. At Burbank Airport, I had to redo their point of sale. The "escort" person propped the door to the tarmac with a brick so I can go to secure area when airport was closed. And nobody was really escorting me. Once security started working in the morning, they wanted to see what is in my laptop bag, while completely ignoring the fact that I had scissors and screwdriver in my pocket.

Fix this crap. And stop trying to fondle me while at it.

 

[denverpilot]

After the exceedingly rare event, now known as the Aurora shooting here in Denver, the talk radio topic here locally yesterday afternoon was, "Should movie theaters have metal detectors?" and people were actually calling in saying yes.

I'm still trying to figure out if the mouth-breathers think the theaters will put them on the emergency exits...

(Facepalm...)

I turned the radio off and fired up an aviation podcast before I punched the steering wheel and hurt myself.

Before I did that, one guy called in and did satire which was confusing the hosts badly. He stated that we needed armed guards everywhere and metal detectors and cameras and kept all semblance of joking or laughing out of his voice and argued the case flawlessly.

The hosts kept asking, "So are you joking?" and he'd reply with logical statements that led to another "need" for something way over the top. It was bloody brilliant. If I knew who it was, I'd buy him a beer. Funniest thing I've heard yet.

Another topic was that comedian Dane Cook already put an Aurora joke in his routine and whether or not it was appropriate comedy material while funerals are still going on.

He basically said the Batman movie was so bad that by 25 minutes in, people would be saying, "Just shoot me."

It seemed a bit too soon for me, but all comedy is based in things so sad we can't deal with them normally with grief, if you really think about it... so I was torn between cracking a smile and thinking the guy had no class.

It's insanity here. The so-called news media just fanning every last ember to get ratings and their next Emmy. Every celebrity falling over themselves to visit the victims, but none of them attending the funerals. Go figure.

 

[wsuffa]

After the exceedingly rare event, now known as the Aurora shooting here in Denver, the talk radio topic here locally yesterday afternoon was, "Should movie theaters have metal detectors?" and people were actually calling in saying yes.

After yesterday's arrest in Maryland (not exactly known for "loose" gun laws), one person being interviewed on the TV news said "It's so scary to think that someone in an apartment in this complex could have any guns, much less an arsenal"...

Before I did that, one guy called in and did satire which was confusing the hosts badly. He stated that we needed armed guards everywhere and metal detectors and cameras and kept all semblance of joking or laughing out of his voice and argued the case flawlessly.

The hosts kept asking, "So are you joking?" and he'd reply with logical statements that led to another "need" for something way over the top. It was bloody brilliant. If I knew who it was, I'd buy him a beer. Funniest thing I've heard yet.

Most likely, he was a shill who works with the radio station. Maybe a paid sidekick.