Any POA members around Denver

Oh my god, I think I'm going to be sick.
 
However, the real story that came out yesterday is that the report was false. If I recall the details correctly, the owner's mentally disabled brother accidentally stepped on the puppy and injured it. The owner made up the story in hopes of not losing the other pups. So, at least this time, the "typical teen" was unjustly accused. What's really sad for today's teen is that the story was not unbelievable.
 
Good grief, what kind of an idiot is the owners brother, thinking that "using the puppy as a football" would sound BETTER than "accidentally stepped on it"???
 
gkainz said:
However, the real story that came out yesterday is that the report was false. If I recall the details correctly, the owner's mentally disabled brother accidentally stepped on the puppy and injured it. The owner made up the story in hopes of not losing the other pups. So, at least this time, the "typical teen" was unjustly accused. What's really sad for today's teen is that the story was not unbelievable.
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I'd sure like to see that story. Maybe it would ease the disgust I feel. Here's another article from a local paper. Sounds more likely that the "accident story" could be as easily contrived.
Bill

http://www.summitdaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006102250035
 
Actually, the owner made up the story - her brother is mentally challenged. And shifting the blame to some unnamed teens makes it sound like it wasn't her or family's responsibility, I think.
 
Greebo said:
Good grief, what kind of an idiot is the owners brother, thinking that "using the puppy as a football" would sound BETTER than "accidentally stepped on it"???
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Good point. Hummm....
 
gkainz said:
still digging ... I heard what I related above on the tv news but was only half-listening.

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_3550361

Here it is...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=1670032

Edit: The online stories don't mention anything about the brother being mentally disabled, so I may have mis-heard that.
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Well thanks for finding that Greg. Sounds like the whole family is just crazy and has no business with pets. There's very little that pi$$es me off any more than cruelty to animals, kids,...anybody for that matter.
Bill
 
Anthony said:
Speaking of Denver, well Aurora actually. How about the high school teacher that compared Bush to Hitler? What's his name? Bennish or something?
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Interesting, I didn't hear that. Do you have a link? How long ago was this?
 
Bill M. said:
Interesting, I didn't hear that. Do you have a link? How long ago was this?
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refresh and look up one post ... happened the other day and it's all over the news here
 
Sounds like the students are as divided over this as the country is divided over the administration. It's always a slippery slope to mandate what teachers teach and how they present subjects.
 
Bill M. said:
Sounds like the students are as divided over this as the country is divided over the administration. It's always a slippery slope to mandate what teachers teach and how they present subjects.
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The problem is this guy and many other teachers only preach one side of the argument. Essentially its indoctrination akin to what Pol Pot and other commnunist totalitarian governments did. Scary.
 
Anthony said:
Speaking of Denver, well Aurora actually. How about the high school teacher that compared Bush to Hitler?

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4508688,00.html
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Intersting the quote in other sources is that he said"some people have compared Bush to Hitler" that is a true statement, some poeple have made that comparision.

There is more to this story than the press is reporting.

Here is a quote I saw on CNN
About 150 high school students walked out of class to protest a decision to put a teacher on leave while they investigate remarks he made about President Bush in class, including that some people compare Bush to Adolf Hitler.
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They make it sound a lot different than that first report. Makes you wonder what the truth is??!!
 
smigaldi said:
Makes you wonder what the truth is??!!
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I rarely believe anything I hear these days, primarily because 'fact checking' has gone the way of the Dodo.
 
Brian Austin said:
I rarely believe anything I hear these days, primarily because 'fact checking' has gone the way of the Dodo.
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My cousin's mother-in-law's niece's step-sister heard that the Dodo is alive and well and living in DC as a politician.

Hey, it must be true!
 
I heard most of the guys speech on local and national news and it was offensive to me. Now I know I don't have a right not to be offended, but it was a leftist, socialist rant that made America look like the bad guy and compared us to Nazi Germany. The bigger issue is that he only presents that viewpoint. Nothing about the good America has done in the world.

And before you doubt the story and my credibility, I actually heard his recorded speech. I didn't just read it on the internet.
 
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Anthony said:
I heard most of the guys speech on local and national news and it was offensive to me. Now I know I don't have a right not to be offended, but it was a leftist, socialist rant that made America look like the bad guy and compared us to Nazi Germany. The bigger issue is that he only presents that viewpoint. Nothing about the good America has done in the world.

And before you doubt the story and my credibility, I actually heard his recorded speech. I didn't just read it on the internet.
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Ditto here... I heard the speech as well. The story is that the student recorded the class as a study aid and replayed it on a radio station talk show. So, unless they played games with editing and put a spin on it, it's at least one step removed from the typical media sound bites.
 
gkainz said:
However, the real story that came out yesterday is that the report was false.
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Accidents, um, ok, sort of. It happens, I can deal with that to some extent if it's truly accidental. Intentionals however just make me violently sick.

gkainz said:
What's really sad for today's teen is that the story was not unbelievable.
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The scary part is you don't doubt it when stories like that come out. It's kind of anticipated behavior nowadays.

I don't know if you've heard some of the stories from down this way ( COS/PUB ) over the last few years but they'll make you very ill. Hanging some of those individuals by the neck until dead then leaving their rotting corpse hanging there as a warning to others is completely justifiable in a few situations.
 
fgcason said:
The scary part is you don't doubt it when stories like that come out. It's kind of anticipated behavior nowadays..
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You're right! I didn't doubt that story when I first read it. Meanness is rampant it seems. When I was doing my pediatric psych rotation, I was assigned a kid who was under commitment for cruelty to animals. His little pleasure was putting lit cigars on the rectums of puppies. Needless to say, this just pushed my buttons and I found it next to impossible to have a dialogue with him. I don't know if that kind of behavior can be fixed.
 
Bill M. said:
Meanness is rampant it seems.
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I think the kids are just pure hateful because they have nothing to do, not very well supervised, no discipline and they need to feel like they're dominate over something so they do whatever they think they can get away with doing.

Bill M. said:
I don't know if that kind of behavior can be fixed.
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It can be fixed however it involves a tree and a length of rope..but that leads to another whole set of problems.

I simply have no respect at all for anyone who tortures animals.
 
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fgcason said:
I think the kids are just pure hateful because they have nothing to do, not very well supervised, no discipline and they need to feel like they're dominate over something so they do whatever they think they can get away with doing.
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I think you are on to something with the boardom idea. When I was a kid we would go to construction sites and play in the houses that were being built, do that today you are arrested for trespasing.

We would built tree forts in the woods and create little encampments. Do that today, if you can even find a wooded area, and you will be arrested for building without a permit

We would hang out at the park and play ball or just catch. Today unless you are a member of an organized city team you have no access to ball field and hang out with other kids in a park and you will be arrested for gang activity.

Waht is there to do for kids today that is not a prepackaged, programed, activity?? Video games?

I think we as adults have done a pretty good job of sucking the fun out of being a kid.
 
smigaldi said:
I think you are on to something with the boardom idea.
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I know I am onto something with that. I simply look at what I did growing up and what kids do now and it's a total disconnect. There's no common ground. I did the same stuff you did and more while growing up. I seem to have turned out at least mostly ok, a little unique, but ok. Most kids I've observed seem to be turning out mostly NOT ok on the whole.

IMO all this ADD stuff and drugging kids to slobbering on themselves that's going on is because the kids don't get out because they can't or will not try to. Then the parents/teachers can't handle a kid that needs some physical activity so instead they shove an entire pharmacy down the kids throat and act like the kid has a mental problem. The kid sitting in class bouncing in his chair is doing it because he's been sitting in his room all weekend. I'd be bouncing in my chair too if I did that and I certainly don't have ADD. These kids aren't sick. They're just stir crazy. They're kids. They like puppies. They have tons of excess energy. They're supposed to get out and dump that physical energy overboard. They don't so they overload and start doing stupid stuff when their brain melts down. That's all there is to it. The same basic concepts apply to adults today with the road rage and active hatred and aggression.

I use to walk on a trail through the neighborhood here that runs where normal neighborhoods have alleys and even has playgrounds and open fields. It's fairly nice..at least it was before the gang bangers took over and started shooting people out for a walk. I walked that trail for about 5 years even on weekends. I saw maybe 10 kids total during that entire time. Empty back yards and playgrounds. It's pathetic.

smigaldi said:
I think we as adults have done a pretty good job of sucking the fun out of being a kid.
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Agreed. It's not limited to just kids. I have to pick my activities, locations and times very very carefully to avoid (a) hooligans (b) the police and (c) any possible witnesses. A harmless walk alone in the park, even if you are obeying the idget signs, is considered suspicious behavior nowadays. Q.E.D.


Society has clamped down so hard to protect everyone and make everyone happy that they are no longer safe or happy.
 
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