Wow , Thank god that thing didn't go into the water . Not speculating here but just for reference , the 800 suffers from high take off and landing speeds . You can plant the thing anywhere but touching down smoothly within the TDZ actually takes a bit of work . The dry no wind rollout distance at MSL is right about 3000FT with typical landing flap settings . That's straight out of the ODM .
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Wow , Thank god that thing didn't go into the water . Not speculating here but just for reference , the 800 suffers from high take off and landing speeds . You can plant the thing anywhere but touching down smoothly within the TDZ actually takes a bit of work . The dry no wind rollout distance at MSL is right about 3000FT with typical landing flap settings . That's straight out of the ODM .
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Isn't typical Vref for an -800 around 150? How does that compare to the A320 or other similar airplanes?
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What weight? What PA? What runway condition?
There is no "typical" Vref for transport category aircraft.
I would say 150 would be to the heavy side. At mid weights or lower it would be significantly lower.
The speeds change about 1 KT for every 2000 LBS . Flaps 15 ( Which is still used at some carriers during unstable conditions ) would add 12-15 KTS . NOT speculating mind you , but with 130 people , this plane was not very heavy . MSLW is 154300 ( This varies by customer ) .
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And UAL has not had a Pilot Error fatality since 1978. And IIRC, they haven't had a Pilot Error hull loss since then either.
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This from my retired NTSB friend.
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Not good...
(Sorry, don't know the source of the original to credit it, was sent to me this way...)
That's Aviation Week and Space Technology.
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That is definitely a record of which to be proud.
Yeah. One for which we seem to get very little credit for.
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That is definitely a record of which to be proud.
Agreed! So when will UAL start mentioning it in their promotional materials?
Or is that like commenting on how INCREDIBLY smooth the car is running when on a long car trip?