Retirement aside, I don't know how anyone could work those jobs for that kind of pay. Do you get 1099'd at the end of the year too?I work for a small flight school 6 planes part time for something to do as a A&P/IA and a CFII for $30hr. I retired years ago and this gives me something to do.
We have new CFI's all the time, soon as they get 1500hr their gone to the airlines and stand in line to get the CFI job for $30hr. As for the Mechanic position, no medical or dental so only another old retired part time mechanic will work for $30hr for something to do. The club is a 141 school so as the IA I have a FAA inspector looking over what I do all the time. And yes the club has great insurance to cover me and great hangar working conditions and we set our own time and schedule.Retirement aside, I don't know how anyone could work those jobs for that kind of pay. Do you get 1099'd at the end of the year too?
Only 5 out of 23 in my A&P class are in aviation.....I did a lot of jobs before going to A&P school. Left a $6+hr job to head to A&P school. First A&P job paid me $!.65/hr. I did it for the love of flying and airplanes. The A&P kept us from starving in the lean years, since I could do almost anything any tradesman could do, only better (maybe not faster). But as for pay, it wasn't for the money for sure. Of the 12 who started A&P school with me, only 2 were working in aviation several years later. The money was much better doing almost anything else, with much less responsibility. Has anything changed?
And when you have people working for subpar pay to "have something to do", it affects the ones that are working for a living.
No it doesn’t….. There is PLENTY of work to go around. Just because some get a good deal, it doesn’t mean the work is dried up. I own a flight school and I contract on jets. That statement is the most over used garbage I see. For pilots and mechanics.
Perhaps some perspective.There is PLENTY of work to go around.
Yeah. Those willing to work for less should not work at all and make nothing so the rest can make more money. And those working for free are downright thieves.That statement I made is very true. Supply and demand. Throw in the subpar and it affects everyone, in multiple ways.
Yeah. Those willing to work for less should not work at all and make nothing so the rest can make more money. And those working for free are downright thieves.
This is so stupid it makes me angry.
It's not complicated, it merely comes from the notion that those singularly motivated by catharsis may not be grounded enough to make public safety decisions at the expense of not getting their rocks off. The irony doesn't escape me of course (FMS, RNAV/PBN potato, automation-steered flight controls, heck cruise flight.....*yawn*). I'm just making the devil's argument for the sake of spurring the discussion btw.Sorry, the whingeing about "hobbyist" or "below market" pilots/mechanics has always been odd to me.
Aviation is WAY cooler than crawling up some karen's backed-up plumbing, driving the trash truck around, or trying to make me a mocha lava java latte with extra firm foam.
I'm well aware of that. I've seen the insane waste created by organized labor. But I will not discuss that.you are effectively complaining about organized labor
I didnt say it would be adequate.And yet, people have trouble finding a mechanic to work on their airplanes.
And its not just that A&Ps don’t make enough…they don’t make enough because if you paid GA mechanics enough, GA pilots are cheap enough that the demand would fall, and you’d have a surplus.I didnt say it would be adequate.
I have trouble sourcing all manner of contractor right now. Restaurant waits are high with a half-empty dining room. Morons are preparing my espresso drinks incorrectly.
I think I could find a willing A&P before a willing plumber. Especially if i am seeking those in a mirror.