100LL Debacle

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  1. Bob Noel

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    "Studies"?

    I think most people use that term to mean research that applies the scientific method.
     
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    Absolutely false. There are safe levels of CO and your body gets rid of CO reasonably quickly while it bioaccumulates lead.
     
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    In Baltimore the crime rate is lower, because they are not prosecuting "minor" crimes, like theft up to $1000. REALLY?????
     
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    Impossible....it hasta be the lead levels. :confused:;)
     
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    the body will get rid of lead. really slowly, but when exposure is eliminated (or reduced) BLL values go down over time.
     
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    Well the forces working to get rid of 100LL are alive and well in S. Cali. This sign is posted on the entrance to my city owned airport. Note the organization named at the bottom. It's not a governmental organization but I suspect it gets quite a bit of public funding, and interesting CV of its board. I suspect more and more airports will follow the lead of Santa Clara County well before there are any results form EAGLE. IMG_3485.jpg
     
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    Doesn’t everything in California have a Prop 65 warning on it?
     
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    Why would the airport allow that sign to be posted in the first place if it isn’t being done by or required by a government entity? If that were my home airport I would be asking for it to be removed as you have no idea what is or will be posted to that organizations website. Did they even get permission to put the sign there or did it just show up one day?
     
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    Apparently anything that generates sawdust will have a prop 65 warning...
     
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    Thats just screwed up. I can understand a lawsuit settlement requiring a sign but can’t figure out how they got away with letting the sign point to an unregulated website with no restrictions of what is on it. Where was AOPA or EAA on this one?
     
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    Nothing a little black Krylon can’t fix.
     
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    That product is also known to the state of California to cause cancer
     
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    So, a sign for the sign?

    "No, Dr. Russell, it's turtles all the way down..."
     
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    You mean like global warming and climate change.

    Sorry, couldn't resist.
     
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    What isn't???
     
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    It is required by CA law.
     

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    Do children with low IQs live in poor communities?
     
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    Well, actually--- USS Lead Superfund Site | US EPA

    (Ok, in fairness this is East Chicago. But it's right next to Chicago. That whole area has a long history of heavy industry.)
     
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    Exactly. Reminds me of this...And for some it probably applies to lead
     
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    Those pesky airplanes from Meggs field.....o_O
     
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    Need to start making their politicians wear it on their clothing when in public.
     
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    they'd probably think it was a badge of honor.
     
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    Lead is bad for motors - fouls plugs, deposits on pistons/ combustion chambers, accumulates in the sump... Particularly bad for geared engines.
    We want lead in our fuel. The more the better.
     
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    Any update? Did the FAA keep its 2-week commitment?
     
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    It's just sad that on a forum for pilots that Meigs gets misspelled. :D
     
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    You're talking somewhere between 25,000-50,000 per engine to replace them if not more since the old cores could end up having all the value of a boat anchor depending on what the replacements look like.

    That would absolutely be a monumental blow to GA.

    We'd be held even more captive than we are today with only 3 major manufacturers and rebuilders.

    To go from a scratch design on paper into full approval would require an investment of millions which is why our choices are already so limited. There's just not a large enough market to make it practical or economically viable.

    Then of course the likelihood of it taking years from development through full approval during which time we could be grounded and those companies attempting to break into the market being out millions with no return on investment during that lag time.
     
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    It's actually both since you'd have to meet the reg's put out by both to get an engine replacement certified.
     
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    @PaulMillner , any news about the promised FAA response to George?
     
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    Quit with the negative waves, man.
    It's the lead.
     
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    sadly....it hasta be. lol :D
     
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    The sign or the lead?
     
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    Yes
     
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    The FAA met the two-week promise. Then ensued some clarification discussions - what did the FAA *mean* by what they said?! I think it's settling out now... hopefully something to share by next week.

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    HOORAY!!!
     
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    Hurray!!!
     
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