1 faa failure and two 121 failures, how to move forward

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  1. O2 Birddog

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    The difference between knowledge and wisdom? Age and experience.

    It's not the fault of the kids, it's how they've been raised.
     
  2. O2 Birddog

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    Then you need to read what I'm actually writing instead of what you imagine.
     
  3. O2 Birddog

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    The kids are not responsible for how they've been raised or what they've been taught.
    Our feelings don't matter to the world, our performance does.
     
  4. dmspilot

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    I didn't imagine anything. I read your post, and replied to it.
     
  5. Kritchlow

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    I don’t know. Two OE busts, back to back, same airline??
    It does give one pause.
     
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    The part about apparently getting through the entire syllabus, to include MTs/MV, and then stumbling twice on LOE. I'm sure all shops are a bit different, and I only have my own for reference, but LOFT/LOE were a lot easier than MV at mine. And you'd think someone struggling to apply the MT stuff in a practical setting such as LOE, might trip up in the pre-LOE LOFTs. I'm sure it happens, as there must have been a reason they preemptively hard scheduled all of us for an additional LOE sim the next day just in case (just like they did for the day after MV), but I didn't know anyone who needed it (unlike the MV). I guess that is a roundabout way of agreeing that it sounds as if OP shouldn't have been anywhere near a sim that/those days. But also sounds like, provided he/she were provided honest feedback and grading prior to those events, the OP had a bad day and has the abilities to recover.
     
  7. dmspilot

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    I'm not familiar with the inner workings of AQP and thought he was talking about operating experience. My mistake.
     
  8. Hengelo

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    Kids these days…
    School these days..
    Your feelings don’t matter…
    Raised wrong…
    Participation trophies…
    You’re imagining things…

    you mad bro? You sound mad
     
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    There is a balance between everyone gets a trophy, and it doesn't matter that your parent is dying, get out there and fly. I struggled a bit during the MV portion of my recent training, and got an extra sim session. One of the first things they asked me was if I had anything going on in my personal life. I appreciated the fact that they asked me that. And I didn't, I was just struggling.
     
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    How is it possible to fail LOE.??

    I mean in the 207 and Navajo I told the guys if you kill me you fail...
     
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    To be fair, other airlines might use slightly different terminology than mine, so you could be right. At my shop, your type rating is issued based on completion of systems test/oral + MV check sim + LOE check sim. LOE being the final check event before you go out the door for OE in the aircraft. I never actually cared enough to get a straight answer, but I believe all 3 of those events are considered to be "jeopardy" events in the AQP system.
     
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    Say what you want about the "kids these days" comments. I work with several 20 and 30 somethings it is funny how even they (the successful ones) recognize their peer group is a bit of a mess. If you think it's bad now wait till these Covid kids grow up. We ain't seen nothing yet. I work in IT in higher ed and I see a lot of this demographic and probably the biggest issue I see is them being told they can be anything they want. Well sure you can, doesn't mean there are jobs there or you can make a living at it, or more importantly pay off their 150K in student loans. I guess all the rest of us will be picking up the tab for that.
     
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  14. Hengelo

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    You're mad too huh?
     
  15. Johnny delmi

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    Hello guys, I am the OP here. I just wanted to post an update for all of you, and for future people who are/were in the same boat as me about to lose hope, Googled around, and came up upon this thread.

    I was able to get picked up by a regional airline (actually, I was given two interviews for two different airlines), but settled for one of them, an unnamed one.

    I passed everything with blind colors first try, and my checkride was completed recently and I am now an ATP. Currently waiting for IOE to fly the CRJ. The examiner (APD) said it was one of the best rides he'd ever conducted.

    I remembered this thread I created a few months back, and decided to update it.

    No thanks to all those who were negative in this thread, and a BIG thanks to those who were positive. Especially those who personally inboxed me.

    I will see you guys out on the line!
     
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  16. Kritchlow

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    So you didn’t really want honest opinions from the group, but only those which supported you?

    Regardless, I’m happy it worked out for you.
     
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    Glad you made it through at least most of the way. Good luck with the remainder of your training!
     
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    Look, if you had one shot or one opportunity
    To seize everything you ever wanted in one moment Would you capture it, or just let it slip?
     
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    He's nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and ready to drop bombs