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    Resume Own Nav...

    The superfluous part is that I was already "own nav" when I was given "Direct LHS" and continued "own nav" to LHS. I was never on a radar vector. Its sorta the "Department of Redundancy Department" scenario. The controller never gave me an additional clearance beyond LHS and the implied...
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    Resume Own Nav...

    I was on an IFR flight plan today from KONT to KSQL and while on the cleared segment PIRRO V186 DARTS V459 LHS GMN AVE, I was given a very small shortcut to cut the corner by SoCal Approach before arriving at DARTS - "Direct LHS, resume own navigation". I read back "Direct LHS" as I though the...
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    VP Waypoints on SFO Class Bravo boundaries

    VPBCB still exists and has coordinates: https://fltplan.com/fix/VPBCB.htm VPBEV is not coming up anywhere I search for it. Is this one that was renamed? Where is/was it on the TAC?
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    VP Waypoints on SFO Class Bravo boundaries

    I agree, why have the VPXXX ones and not the pronounceable ones. At least they show up on ForeFlight map TAC overlay if you have the Aeronautical box selected in the options. I noticed a few new VPXXX waypoints, like VPDSH for the big radio telescope at Stanford and VPSLT for the salt...
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    VP Waypoints on SFO Class Bravo boundaries

    That makes perfect sense. I still wonder why they even went with VPXXX in the first place for defining the Bravo boundaries and not give them pronounceable designators for use by ATC...maybe that required more work up front. Once a designator is removed from use, can/does it get used again or...
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    VP Waypoints on SFO Class Bravo boundaries

    I was just looking at the updated San Francisco TAC and many of the VP Bravo waypoints have been replaced with non-VP GPS waypoints that aren't even marked on the TAC. For example, what was VPAGY is now ANMIL and what was VPBCJ is now VELAN. I wonder if this is an effort to make these...
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    VP Waypoints on SFO Class Bravo boundaries

    I was just about to post that exception, which makes the use of the "VPBxx" nomenclature all the more interesting. Obviously, these are not formally VFR waypoints or checkpoints so technically would not be contrary to anything in 12-8-3. I wonder if there is a section somewhere describing the...
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    VP Waypoints on SFO Class Bravo boundaries

    Thanks, this makes sense. I was able to find an image of the pre-redesigned SFO Bravo airspace and it was VOR/DME based. I am a little surprised they use the standard 5-letter waypoint fixes for these definition points, however, since they are unlikely to be used for navigation. I guess if...
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    VP Waypoints on SFO Class Bravo boundaries

    Hello All, First post! I had a question about the SFO Class Bravo boundaries. On the San Francisco TAC, there are a variety of VFR waypoints in the SF Bay Area that start with "VP" and are mostly associated with landmarks for pilotage. However, there is a second set of waypoints that start...
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