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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    That's a great resource @GeorgeC - thanks for that!
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    After @OkieAviator suggested it, I did some research (thanks for the pointer!). It is affordable relative to other options with the same specs, and its range and 4-passenger capability look outstanding. I'm assuming the only reason others in this thread haven't suggested it thus far is because...
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    The only one I'm currently aware of is the Velocity V-Twin, and with two IO-360's, 75% cruise is 215 kts TAS at 20 gph and climb at 2000 ft/min. Economy cruise is 195 kts TAS and 16 gph: http://www.velocityaircraft.com/airplane-specifications.html
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    So the RV-10 has a Vne of 200 kts TRUE (not indicated) per RV-10 Pilot's Operating Handbook. Seems like putting a PT-6 (or even a smaller Rolls Royce) is ... a really bad idea. :eek:
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    Whaaaat? o_O Time to go research. I just found this: http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=111423&page=5 More reading to ensue. Thanks for the pointer! (Not sure I'd ever do such a thing, but still, super interesting nonetheless!)
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    This is super helpful context to understand your communication style, and I'll keep that in mind for the future - thanks so much that. And yes, the video is hilarious ;) Thanks!
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    I don't know you, nor do I have a feeling of your sense of humor, and this just might be a simple personality difference, but both of these replies come across to me as trolling, whereas everyone else in this thread has communicated with a pleasant degree of decorum. Your first reply...
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    I wouldn't be too hard on him - he probably just had outdated information and solidified his opinions based on them. And I could have very well misquoted him about the Bonanza too - i.e. blame me, not him, until I know for sure his thoughts (It has been about 3 weeks since I had that initial...
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    Thoughts on a Cherokee 140 as a learner & 1st plane

    Newbie student pilot here training in a 2013 Archer III. Make a final decision about what?
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    Thanks @Tantalum for chiming in! What's interesting about your post is that I did a lot of research on Cirrus before choosing a CFI and I had come to pretty much the exact same conclusions you presented here - spinning in a pattern, Perspective envelope protection, Bonanza's comfort issues, etc...
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    To the best of my knowledge, the Cirrus training drives it into your head that, during an emergency imminent crash scenario: Below 600 feet, you fly straight ahead and try to land via normal crash landing techniques. From 600-2000 feet AGL, you use CAPS immediately. Above 2000 feet AGL, you try...
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    Yep, I've no disillusions about those things, but it feels different to me. Waiting on me (or the weather) is a fundamentally different feeling that being forced to wait on someone else. Stuff breaks, things go wrong, and you deal with that and then use commercial aviation as a backup - that's...
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    That's good to know, thanks for chiming in @WillFly4Food . That gives one hope that it's possible as long as you're diligent and focus on safety ;) That said, I think I'll re-post last Friday's summary here because it has been so valuable for me, and then explain what my current plan is: As...
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    I know it's difficult sometimes to represent demeanor or humor on public forums, and I just want to say that I take no offense and this is all in (hopefully) good fun in an attempt to learn and debate the more interesting points of aircraft ownership. I'm genuinely grateful you've joined in the...
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    I'm sorry, but with respect, this is incorrect. Please feel free to talk to a CPA or fiduciary if you don't believe me. I don't care if it's an aircraft, heavy machinery, a yacht, a new office building - initial capital expenditure ('upfront costs') and continued variable + fixed costs all...
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    I'm absolutely enamored with that airplane. The engineering Pilatus has put into it is outstanding at almost every level. The only (very minimal) downside is its 275 kts cruise speed doesn't match the desired 300+ kts envelope, but for the sheer utility of a PC-12, I might happily make this...
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    In just the replies I've seen here, it definitely seems possible. A Cheyenne 400LS will do 350 kts @ FL240 and can be had for ~ $800k and that definitely is lower than $1M. In coming years, some used TBMs will be right under that mark as well.
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    Thanks for your 2¢! And yes, anyone doing a cost-benefit analysis against the airlines is always going to lose. Always. But for me, 'beating' the airlines is not as much about cost as it is the gain in freedom, time and flexibility. IIUC, for all but longer cross country flights, a private...
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    @MuseChaser your post is actually worth quite a lot - thanks for replying. And frugality is definitely a factor. While I could probably afford higher-cost aircraft, I feel exactly as you do - if you don't have to spend more than what meets your mission profile, why would you? I would want the...
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    Long Term Planning for a Fast Comfortable Cross Country Plane

    @Sam D thanks for that - both you and @Ted DuPuis have now stated Cirrus' progression philosophy, so I'll definitely research that. I'll probably be happy the PA-28 or a 172 for quite a while, but it'll be good to learn how Cirrus has calculated these steps and see if I might want to take a...
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