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Wait.. did you say you’ve never owned a plane before? I’m not really an expert on these things but I’m on #3 and there is definitely a learning curve. And it’s not so much about learning how to maintain or manage the plane, it’s more about managing and preparing for and accepting the financial...

Owned one for about three years. It wouldn't be a "fit" for my needs now, but I do miss it from time to time because it was such a good bird. Here are my thoughts: 1) Excellent visibility - best of any plane I am aware of in this "class" with the possibly exception of RV-type experimentals...

Those new 206s are so damn heavy though... what a shame to turn such an incredible plane into such a pig.

185 and 182 prices are not comparable, in my opinion. One has little to do with the other. As a former 182 owner and current 205 owner the biggest thing that just doesn’t seem to fit for me in terms of your mission requirements is that the 182 is so slow(!). I don’t really care about speed...

This really seems like 210 territory to me.

How much IFR flying do you (really) do?

Your panel and autopilot requirements are not really that extensive (depending somewhat on how sophisticated an autopilot you’re looking for). I definitely wouldn’t bother limiting your search to ADS-equipped planes because there just aren’t that many of them and it’s not that expensive - all...

This is either purposefully argumentative or just doesn’t know the area. The saddles to either side of the actual ski mountain are much lower than 11,000 - roughly 9,000’.

You haven’t really said anything that screams one plane or another, so a 182 makes a lot of sense cuz it’s reasonably good at most things. That said, it’s really not that different that a 180hp 172 so unless you specifically said I’m desperate for greater load hauling or longer legs (which you...

Go read the Colorado Springs thread and you will understand that YOU WILL DIE if you do this without proper mountain flying training.

Oh man, I think I just threw up in my mouth. Denverpilot your self-righteous game is solid!

God bless this wonderful SkyHog Oh my sides! Yer killin’ me. Stop!!

I'm back. I couldn't resist. Seriously. And not only that, compare a daytime sightseeing flight to a nighttime, VMC to IMC flight crossing the mountains accident (that Cirrus flight took off 20 minutes after sunset, for the record), or a flight into a thunderstorm, or a summertime high DA...

oh ffs..

I'm signing off of this thread. Y'all enjoy.

This is just dumb. It's not even close to what I'm advocating and doesn't add anything to the conversation.

Well exactly! How can you equate flying over the mountains between Denver and Aspen, at night, in IMC, with a pilot that was not rated for IFR flight, with daytime sightseeing around the foothills? Was this a serious comment? Maybe I'm getting trolled... Speak up, I think you're mumbling.

Completely different. That was at night. And maybe even IFR at night. Come on. You wouldn't fly the Appalachian mountains? At all? Even in good weather? You wouldn't even venture over to take a look at the foothills? OP - do what you will. The simple fact that you're on here asking...

I am not one to minimize risk taking, but this thread is so lame.

He said sight-seeing. Not crossing the state (and even then, it's doable). I even looked at a map before posting so I wouldn't be a moron, but there is plenty of sight-seeing west of Colorado Springs that wouldn't require putting oneself in any sort of predicament provided winds are light...