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Ever since I was a little boy I've wanted to get upside down in a plane. What are the basic motions for me to do a basic roll in a C172? Do I just keep banking until it completely turns over? Do I need to do anything with the elevator? Just some basic step by step instructions would be great. I...

Lots of wadded up panties around here. Relax girlies. Take a deep breath. Exhale. Again. All better now? Good.

I wasn't trolling. This was a serious post. In case the humor impaired don't get it, for the record I am not Ed and not Tom and not Henning and actually nobody else on here. Now just let this thread die a natural death. Stop posting here! Quite simple.

Whoa! I didn't confirm it dude! If you have a problem with me then deal with me not Ed.

I'm neither confirming nor denying this allegation other than to say Ed is one of the few individuals around here who I truly admire.

If you're flying a crappy plane in the mountains, it is not a bad idea to gain some altitude in the friendly environment of the airport.

I refuse to take your bait. I know you're trolling me trying to get a reaction. Well you will get none. Good day to you Sir!

:D It was a pretty solid effort Bryan. If I ever try my hand at trolling I will try to emulate what you did there.

I don't think Jack is dead. From what I remember his broken crown was fixed with vinegar and brown paper? He is okay. This is a kid friendly story. Well besides the Tijuana bit.

You've got to try new things. That is how stuff gets invented. I have at least 50 patents so know a thing or two about experimentation... Use your brain, Glenn, and free yourself from the shackles of dogma. You're not going to progress staying in your personal safe zone.

Yes, I was about to say: Don't leave Jill with the horse whatever you do. You know what they say about horses...

Human factors? WTF? Just fly the damn plane ******nit! Human factors indeed. Flight training is like every other kind of training out there. Those who cannot do, teach. That is the honest truth in most cases. There are exceptions: You do get some CFI's who are worth a damn but they are in the...

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Funny thing is the real answer is it wouldn't do anything. Liquid nitrogen takes so little energy to vaporize that you would have a hell of a time trying to even get it to slightly cool the engine. Anyone who has played with LN2 knows you can dump it on a person and it just feels like cool air...

So you advocating never questioning a CFI?

Yes the engine was possibly damaged but not likely. It's possible you're a donkey with amazing typing skills but also not likely.

Oh PLEASE don't put this thread on ignore! That would just DEVASTATE me! LOL. Got to love people who feel the need to let you know they're going to ignore you. Maybe I should have called myself Dog then the Man who prefers DOGS to people might be lovin' on me instead. How those gold plated...

I've been around the block a few times. More than a few times.

Thank you, someone with the guts to buck the tradition and fight the dogma and say NO to ignorance and parroting of OWT's such as shock cooling. In Zeldman's case there was likely a strong wind blowing at that -42F to cause such a rapid cool down. That -42F blast is no doubt way worse than any...

Relook at that picture. I think it qualifies as more than a deep puddle.