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Pretty positive. I'll have to take another look.

Not quite, since I've lived in MA, CA, and FL where I saw the same thing. I'd considered Variation being rounded into the direction, but it didn't quite explain it away.

I understand that, but when ATIS says winds are 150 at 8 and the METAR reads winds 150 at 8, they cant both be in Magnetic and True direction, respectively.

I'm sorry. I was trying to lead into one discrepancy that I've never been able to reconcile. ATIS reports winds in Magnetic Direction. METARs report winds in True Direction. I've never heard an ATIS that reported anything other than METAR published winds. One of those reports must be wrong...

How are winds reported in ATIS; True or Magnetic?

But is that 080 direction measured from True North, or Magnetic North?

If you really want all of the in-depth info on Aviation Weather products, you can reference AC 00-45G, (Though they might be on "H" now.) It has all of the nitty gritty details on every Aviation Weather Service- Hence the title "Aviation Weather Services."

The only faster way in a 172 without making configuration changes (which I think we can all agree would be ill-advised) to achieve best glide would be to climb to bleed of speed. In order to climb, you need excess Power (if you're trying to get a best rate of climb.) How much excess power do...

In the scenario you described, you may absolutely log all time and landings, provided you hold a certificate with the category and class ratings of the airplane you are flying. Have fun!

This.

This is seriously concerning that this is a thing that people think will work. Next time I'm in a skyhawk, I'll make a video of this to demonstrate how completely and utterly wrong this notion of "full nose-up trim for best glide" is.

I quit.

In which region are you an examiner? If you're stating that it is not possible to trim a Cessna 172 for best glide, I'd like to steer clear of your part of town.

I think I described pretty well the process one would use to trim for best glide. The OP already established that with full nose up trim he achieved 70 knots, which is not best glide in the C172. While I'm not an examiner, I have performed dozens of end-of-course stage checks as an Assistant...

Knowing to trim for best glide is an imperative skill. I'm saying that fill nose up trim in a 172 will not achieve that. Rather, maintaining altitude while slowing to best glide, and then trimming to relieve control pressure it the best practice. Defaulting to full nose up trim is not useful...

Quite the opposite. One should always trim for best glide from altitude. In a 172, your best glide will never be 70kts unless you've severely exceeded the airplanes max gross weight.

Hmm. That's interesting. I don't know enough about older Pipers to know if any were built sans shoulder harness. I'll have to do some poking around.

It's not useful; It's careless. Skill in flying, especially emergency procedures is not something to find shortcuts around. Practice, and learn to do it right.

Except for the fact that it looks like his instructor doesn't like to use his shoulder harness. *tisk tisk*

If he's saying that he was UNABLE to trim the airplane to 65 Kts, then something is amiss. In 600 hours of flying 172 models M, R, S and RG, I've never once been unable to trim the airplane to 65 knots in a power off condition.