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I thought about that, but then got to wondering if an Apache would really cost all that much more to operate. With twin O-320s, total fuel burn would be 16-18 gph vs 14 or 15 for something like a Skylane or Cherokee 235. You've got two engines to overhaul but, relatively speaking of course...

And I forgot the "Charger," as Pilawt pointed out :)

Well, if the Commander won't work, how 'bout an Apache, then? I think they'll carry the load you want, can be had for well under $100k, work great on short and grass fields, and I think they may even hit 130 kts :)

I suppose they have gotten a bit pricey. Could look at the 112 or 112TC, but I don't know if their useful load or short field performance would work for you or not. Actually, if want to carry 3 plus bags it's pretty much a sure bet the 112 wouldn't work for you, I think. The company under it's...

Commander 114. Carries about what a Skylane will, at about 150 knots it's about as fast as a Mooney 201 (though it takes 50 extra horsepower to do it), it's got adequate short field performance It's landing gear is incredibly rugged, the plane sits very high, and with the cruciform tail up even...

The 235 was called the Pathfinder for a couple years between being the 235 and the Dakota.

The Cherokee 180 fuselage was stretched in 1973. They called the plane the Challenger. It still had the Hershey bar wings, though they had a longer span, as did the horizontal stabilizer. The original Archer came out in 1974, and was the same plane. Stretched fuselage and Hershey bar wings. Most...

Thanks again :)

Don't think I'll have time for lunch, unfortunately, but thanks for the offer, and the info :) My pastor lives about 5 minutes from ILG. I'm picking him and his wife up on the 20th and taking them to Bloomberg so he can preach for a church up there. WX permitting, of course. I'll just be picking...

In a couple weeks I'm going to be picking some passengers up at ILG and dropping them off again later in the day. Where is the best place to park? I wouldn't mind a place that wouldn't charge me a parking fee for a few minutes on their ramp, but it's more important for it to be an FBO that...

People scream about the potential for environmental damage in Anwar. BP takes the pipeline offline when they discover problems so they can fix them before there is a real environmental disaster, and get ragged on for being pro-active. Reminds me of a chemical company in near Charleston, WV...

Personally, I'm not totally convinced they were a huge improvement. My experience with the tapered wing Pipers was in a couple of mid-80s Warriors. I found the roll forces to be the heaviest of any plane I've been in, and the planes did not roll quickly at all. The '73 Challenger I flew and a...

1973 was the only year they used that name... IIRC another company selling jets took exception to it. The Challenger has a stretched fuselage, almost all the space going to rear seat leg room which makes them quite nice, a longer wingspan than earlier Cherokee 180s, and a longer span horizontal...

Actually, on a serious note, most of the Mooney's in that price range that are listed either need radios and/or engines, or have damage history. Damage history isn't necessarily a deal killer for me, but you can't really do an apples to apples price comparison to a no damage airplane...

And soon Anthony will chime in singing the praises of Grummans :D I can't have a Mooney. Didn't Sean tell you? The tails are backwards :rofl:

It's gonna get pricey for us. Something tells me the oil companies won't experience any profit problems. I'm hoping avgas doesn't suddenly get hard to find.

I like them both. I really liked the Challenger I used to fly, the newer Archer is prettier. The Challenger has a much lower time reman engine, a Garmin 530 and a KX170. The Archer has a mid-time overhauled engine, dual KX-155s, DME, and a KLN-89. And a great useful load for a 180 hp plane...

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WV12 in South Charleston, WV. It features a short, one way runway. This means you get good at tail wind takeoffs and landings. Even better, on take off the runway ends right at the edge of a 100 foot valley, with a hill right in front of the runway just across it. Close enough that a Skyhawk...

I happened to see a Skyhawk at the airport recently with a crack in the exhaust pipe. It ran two or three inches from the end of the pipe, maybe halfway to the cowling. The operator mentioned they were going to have it fixed before it cracked all the way up to the cowl. I got to wondering if...