schmookeeg
En-Route
Hello, sorry, this is a bit long
Background: My Baron is in annual, and, shocking nobody, the 2200 SMOH left engine is wanting a cash infusion of a few AMUs (a leaky exhaust valve and some pitted lifters). Rather than throw good money after a tired motor, I was prepared to MOH the thing, and assumed I could swap-and-overhaul in 4-6 weeks tops.
Problem: All of my preferred shops are quoting 2-6 months (!) turnaround times
I don't want this downtime in spring/summer, so I am exploring creative alternatives.
My current thought: Buy a core engine, spend the couple grand on the current motor, overhaul the core, swap in wintertime.
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So I have a barnstormers ad out there, looking for an engine. Basic. https://www.barnstormers.com/classified-1657899-Continental-IO-550C.html?catid=16752
I received a response via text the next day. The message went:
Great! I replied:
He answered back:
And sure enough, I received this via Email:
So I can use a C6F to replace my C7F with a magneto swap, easy peasy.
The photos show an engine on a pallet, and had the details I requested.
The engine appears to have an aftermarket turbo and exhaust which is strange. Fine. I assume this is the rare and terrible Merlyn Baron system and can be chucked. The rest looks just like my current motors, and the shot of the data plate matches expectations and logs. ~500smoh in 2006 and even flown last october. Better than expected for a core. John Jewell overhaul.
It all sounded perfect for my purposes, and the price was well in range too.
Here's the problem.
After reviewing the provided logs, I found the donor N# referenced and I went a-googling
...That very plane is for sale right now on controller.
https://www.controller.com/listing/for-sale/199849583/1988-beechcraft-58-baron-piston-twin-aircraft
The logbooks in the PLANE ad match what I was sent for the ENGINE, however the ENGINE version started at the last overhaul, whereas the PLANE went all the way back to the 2001 Reman. So someone doctored a PDF and ginned up dataplate and credible engine photos?
ಠ_ಠ Someone is lying. On the internet?? Impossibru!
I have a note out to the Plane Broker, and some pointy questions for the engine seller.
My question to this group:
Would someone photoshop a data plate for a shot at a scam? Do you think the broker provided that photo to a scammer and it was added to some other photos to make a convincing set?
I can't find the pallet engine photos anywhere on the internet. (tineye came up empty) Is it possible someone married photos of an IO-550 (from some secret source?) and a photo of a correct data plate to match the logs stolen from a plane for-sale ad? Like, the person doing that has some aviation knowledge or got lucky.
Really??? For Used Toyota Yaris money?
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I'm vexed. Obviously I'm now at the point where no money will leave my hand until I've clapped eyes on the thing, reviewed its logs, and loaded it into my vehicle of choice. I also would not even bring cash to the first meeting, such is my spidey sense on this thing.
But did someone actually go this far to scam me? Because it's really rather good. These seem like skills that could be employed profitably elsewhere. Way more profitably.
I await terms and a meeting place from the engine seller, and clarification/wtf from the plane seller about his engine. I have no idea who is lying here, but strongly assume it's the Email/SMS-er.
But man. This is a bit scary. And I'm a techie with a high level of skepticism already.
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Anyone want to look at an "engine" in Lancaster PA before I pop over myself to have a look? Or get mugged on my behalf? (Do Amish buggies often use Turbonormalized Continentals?)
Friggin internet.
Background: My Baron is in annual, and, shocking nobody, the 2200 SMOH left engine is wanting a cash infusion of a few AMUs (a leaky exhaust valve and some pitted lifters). Rather than throw good money after a tired motor, I was prepared to MOH the thing, and assumed I could swap-and-overhaul in 4-6 weeks tops.
Problem: All of my preferred shops are quoting 2-6 months (!) turnaround times
I don't want this downtime in spring/summer, so I am exploring creative alternatives.
My current thought: Buy a core engine, spend the couple grand on the current motor, overhaul the core, swap in wintertime.
==
So I have a barnstormers ad out there, looking for an engine. Basic. https://www.barnstormers.com/classified-1657899-Continental-IO-550C.html?catid=16752
I received a response via text the next day. The message went:
Hello Mike, I have what you are looking for. It's a Continental IO-550C engine that I'm putting up for sale. Let me know if you are interested. Tom
Great! I replied:
Thanks Tom -- would love more info. Can you shoot me details (prop strike? engine spec (what numbers after the "C") and times? photos or logs if available?) to mike@(etc)
He answered back:
Will do
And sure enough, I received this via Email:
Hi Mike,
Sorry I am just getting back to you, I've had a busy couple of days. So the engine I have is a -C6F engine with 520.4 SMOH and 1503.7 TT.
It has no damage history or any prop strike; comes with complete logbook and accessories. I attached some pictures of the engine and logs below.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Regards,
Tom
So I can use a C6F to replace my C7F with a magneto swap, easy peasy.
The photos show an engine on a pallet, and had the details I requested.
The engine appears to have an aftermarket turbo and exhaust which is strange. Fine. I assume this is the rare and terrible Merlyn Baron system and can be chucked. The rest looks just like my current motors, and the shot of the data plate matches expectations and logs. ~500smoh in 2006 and even flown last october. Better than expected for a core. John Jewell overhaul.
It all sounded perfect for my purposes, and the price was well in range too.
Here's the problem.
After reviewing the provided logs, I found the donor N# referenced and I went a-googling
...That very plane is for sale right now on controller.
https://www.controller.com/listing/for-sale/199849583/1988-beechcraft-58-baron-piston-twin-aircraft
The logbooks in the PLANE ad match what I was sent for the ENGINE, however the ENGINE version started at the last overhaul, whereas the PLANE went all the way back to the 2001 Reman. So someone doctored a PDF and ginned up dataplate and credible engine photos?
ಠ_ಠ Someone is lying. On the internet?? Impossibru!
I have a note out to the Plane Broker, and some pointy questions for the engine seller.
My question to this group:
Would someone photoshop a data plate for a shot at a scam? Do you think the broker provided that photo to a scammer and it was added to some other photos to make a convincing set?
I can't find the pallet engine photos anywhere on the internet. (tineye came up empty) Is it possible someone married photos of an IO-550 (from some secret source?) and a photo of a correct data plate to match the logs stolen from a plane for-sale ad? Like, the person doing that has some aviation knowledge or got lucky.
Really??? For Used Toyota Yaris money?
==
I'm vexed. Obviously I'm now at the point where no money will leave my hand until I've clapped eyes on the thing, reviewed its logs, and loaded it into my vehicle of choice. I also would not even bring cash to the first meeting, such is my spidey sense on this thing.
But did someone actually go this far to scam me? Because it's really rather good. These seem like skills that could be employed profitably elsewhere. Way more profitably.
I await terms and a meeting place from the engine seller, and clarification/wtf from the plane seller about his engine. I have no idea who is lying here, but strongly assume it's the Email/SMS-er.
But man. This is a bit scary. And I'm a techie with a high level of skepticism already.
==
Anyone want to look at an "engine" in Lancaster PA before I pop over myself to have a look? Or get mugged on my behalf? (Do Amish buggies often use Turbonormalized Continentals?)
Friggin internet.
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