VFR Flight planning through or around DC

I fly into the SFRA from NY every few weeks. Not once has Garmin Pilot shown the 60 NM ring as a TFR. It only shows the 30 NM ring and the FRZ as TFRs.

The issue isn't on the ground when getting data via the internet. The issue is that in the air, when ForeFlight receives its data from ADSB towers, it shows the 60 NM ring as a TFR. Garmin Pilot (at least in my experience) does not.

On your next flight into the SFRA, please take an airborne screenshot of Garmin Pilot while attached to an ADS-B FISB receiver. Obviously without an ADS-B FISB receiver, Garmin Pilot will not show the 60 NM ring. I took several pictures of my Garmin GNS 530W both before and nearing the DC area. I have both XMSirius and a GDL88 installed in my Bonanza with FISB. XM shows the 60 NM ring as a TFR as does the ADS-B FISB, only you need to be close to the DC area for the FISB to show the 60 NM ring. I also have similar screenshots of ForeFlight and Garmin Pilot. Both do not show the 60 NM ring when viewed using internet. I had a few screenshots of Garmin Pilot back in 2016 showing the 60 NM ring when airborne and near the DC area. I will try and get a screenshot from my airplane showing XM and using Garmin Pilot, but I have to do it in my local area near Charlotte, NC.
 
On your next flight into the SFRA, please take an airborne screenshot of Garmin Pilot while attached to an ADS-B FISB receiver. Obviously without an ADS-B FISB receiver, Garmin Pilot will not show the 60 NM ring. I took several pictures of my Garmin GNS 530W both before and nearing the DC area. I have both XMSirius and a GDL88 installed in my Bonanza with FISB. XM shows the 60 NM ring as a TFR as does the ADS-B FISB, only you need to be close to the DC area for the FISB to show the 60 NM ring. I also have similar screenshots of ForeFlight and Garmin Pilot. Both do not show the 60 NM ring when viewed using internet. I had a few screenshots of Garmin Pilot back in 2016 showing the 60 NM ring when airborne and near the DC area. I will try and get a screenshot from my airplane showing XM and using Garmin Pilot, but I have to do it in my local area near Charlotte, NC.

John, I'll take screenshots on my next flight. My setup includes an iPad mini 5 with Garmin Pilot and a GDL 50 for ADSB in.
 
Just follow the procedures and you'll be fine. NEVER squawk 1200 in the SFRA (this is grilled into you during the training) unless you like the idea of an F16 escort.

Got to spend a few minutes speaking with the fine folks at SnF that work for NORAD. Didn't really learn anything I didn't know but there was conviction in the way the question of, "would you shoot down a non-responding aircraft?" was answered. His replay was, "We do what we are ordered to do!" :dunno:
 
I usually transit the DC area on an IFR flight plan, which simplifies things considerably. I usually bypass the SFRA to the west unless the winds are honking, when the ride in the lee of the mountains can be gnarly. The Eastern route is pretty flat, but there is some overwater bits. If you can get flight following VFR, it's much simpler. If you are IFR, you know things will be copacetic with ATC, although the routing may not always be ideal.
 
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If someone regularly flies into or near the DC area and uses ForeFlight with an ADS-B receiver, can you send me an email. I would like to get a trace of the FISB broadcasts of the TFR for the 60 NM VFR speed ring. My email information is in my profile.

Edit, a volunteer contacted me, thanks.
 
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John, I'll take screenshots on my next flight. My setup includes an iPad mini 5 with Garmin Pilot and a GDL 50 for ADSB in.

Have you been able to fly into the DC area? If not, if anyone else who uses GP can take a screenshot when flying in the area around DC and show the TFR's depicted by FISB. The flight needs to be using an ADS-B in receiver and at least be 20 or 30 minutes long. The TFR NOTAM's only get broadcast every 10 minutes and the look ahead range for any NOTAM is 100 NM.
 
Have you been able to fly into the DC area? If not, if anyone else who uses GP can take a screenshot when flying in the area around DC and show the TFR's depicted by FISB. The flight needs to be using an ADS-B in receiver and at least be 20 or 30 minutes long. The TFR NOTAM's only get broadcast every 10 minutes and the look ahead range for any NOTAM is 100 NM.

John, Not yet. I may be flying down on Thursday or Friday this coming week.
 
Have you been able to fly into the DC area? If not, if anyone else who uses GP can take a screenshot when flying in the area around DC and show the TFR's depicted by FISB. The flight needs to be using an ADS-B in receiver and at least be 20 or 30 minutes long. The TFR NOTAM's only get broadcast every 10 minutes and the look ahead range for any NOTAM is 100 NM.

John, See the attached screenshots. The flight originated in NY and I was receiving the FISB broadcast the whole time. A TFR for the SFRA is depicted at the 30 NM ring. No TFR is shown at 60 NM.

Garmin Pilot running on an iPad mini 5 with a Garmin GDL 50 paired for FISB
 

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John, See the attached screenshots. The flight originated in NY and I was receiving the FISB broadcast the whole time. A TFR for the SFRA is depicted at the 30 NM ring. No TFR is shown at 60 NM.

Garmin Pilot running on an iPad mini 5 with a Garmin GDL 50 paired for FISB

Thanks, that is helpful.
 
OK, an update and thanks to all that contributed.

We just got back from our second attempt to PA. Took the route previously planned based upon familiarity, less traffic, reasonable clear skies. I also learned that fancy profile tool in foreflight that lets me see and know how the obstacles ahead are. How interesting that the " mountains" I saw as being a first contact at my altitude really seemed to be quite low when I got to them, by thousands of feet. Some light turbulence near them. We used Flight following both ways, great help, gave peace of mind, few changes needed for traffic. I think they could tell I was a rookie and handled things well. Today a guy actually remembered us same route yesterday. The 6o nm ring showed on the way up, not on the way back. Landed in a bit of a valley, saw some great sights, and visited with family.
 
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