Bonanza
V-tail or straight?
V TAIL and I fully understand the ruddervator problems..hehe this plane had them recently stripped and painted so I'll take my chances. I know, I know....hahaha
Actually flying one got me hooked. Dang its all I think about. Hahaha
as long as you're informed and understand the opportunity cost moving forward in your ownership experience, then by all means. Your monkey your circus brother. Good luck to ya!
We already have ruddervator spares. Non issue.
Link?
They’re in the hangar, not for sale. Literally already have a set.
I do have one..just got it too..the VA-400 perfect place to use it. Haha
You're shifting the goal post. That doesn't make it a non-issue, just a non-issue for you. Ya might wanna help the dude on page 85 of the BT thread that doesn't seem to have your luck though. Their experience seems to contradict yours. They are AOG UFN.
Non-issue for my circle. That's all that matters
Steam with a 530w and some other goodies,are those glass they are big...hahaha I kid
. I have however heard the complaint this year from my circle of GA acquaintances fwiw.
No dog in your specific airplane make/model fight, but I'll give ya my personal anecdote. My insurance did not go up this year (low hull value Arrow, 1M policy with per pax caps, but I fly with family only so I'm cool with the limits). To be pedantic, it actually went down 30 bucks.
Friends/Coworkers with a Lance, Cherokee six 260 and V-tail (S35) respectively otoh, did see an increase this year, the V-tail Bo being the highest (400/yr for a guy with no claims). I pried, as they did their brokers. Case for the PA-32s, low-time dumbos keep crashing them (both in motion ground and landing accidents). The Lance guy did re-up his hull 20K, the six 260 guy left it alone. For the Bo, ruddervator's cat is out the bag. Don't shoot the messenger, that's what he told me the agent proferred to him.
To be clear, these dynamics are not unique. The 210 for instance has suffered from this dynamic for the better part of a decade now. As these things continue to get older and the hull support becomes cantankerous (especially the one off high value parts, actuators, pivots, RVs, wing carrythroughs) insurance market will behave accordingly until only those willing to self-insure are the only players of consequence. Textron is wringing its hands, make no mistake. That's not a bug, that's the feature.
If you get a word with the agent, feel free to share back what your experience was, as it can shine a light of the current and perhaps changing dynamics of our little hobby as we move into the second decade of this century. I'm certainly passively indexing these trends one a pre- and post- recession basis, timing my next airplane strike myself.
Thank you. I will indeed pass the recommendation!My T Lance insurance went down...... sounds like he should have shopped a better broker. Tom Hauge at Wings Insurance..... give him a ring.
No dog in your specific airplane make/model fight, but I'll give ya my personal anecdote. My insurance did not go up this year (low hull value Arrow, 1M policy with per pax caps, but I fly with family only so I'm cool with the limits). To be pedantic, it actually went down 30 bucks.
Friends/Coworkers with a Lance, Cherokee six 260 and V-tail (S35) respectively otoh, did see an increase this year, the V-tail Bo being the highest (400/yr for a guy with no claims). I pried, as they did their brokers. Case for the PA-32s, low-time dumbos keep crashing them (both in motion ground and landing accidents). The Lance guy did re-up his hull 20K, the six 260 guy left it alone. For the Bo, ruddervator's cat is out the bag. Don't shoot the messenger, that's what he told me the agent proferred to him.
To be clear, these dynamics are not unique. The 210 for instance has suffered from this dynamic for the better part of a decade now. As these things continue to get older and the hull support becomes cantankerous (especially the one off high value parts, actuators, pivots, RVs, wing carrythroughs) insurance market will behave accordingly until only those willing to self-insure are the only players of consequence. Textron is wringing its hands, make no mistake. That's not a bug, that's the feature.
If you get a word with the agent, feel free to share back what your experience was, as it can shine a light of the current and perhaps changing dynamics of our little hobby as we move into the second decade of this century. I'm certainly passively indexing these trends one a pre- and post- recession basis, timing my next airplane strike myself.
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Do your own pre-buy and let the A&P button it up after you are done.
I was rather in the same boat. the airplane was largely disassembled for annual, though the wing inspection plates were mostly still on. A mechanic and I spent a full day poking and prodding at everything. Couldn't really find anything wrong with eh aircraft. I've been very happy with her ever since.
I've seen both sides from the mx point. In my experience, it depends on your relationship with this mechanic and his relationship with the current owner. If he's in the middle and up front then there should be no problem to go through a pre-buy of the aircraft with just you and him. That would get you into the loop and where he stands on the aircraft.
