Is this true? 300 HP Rotax shelved??

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How many experimental 6 cylinder engines sold each year? No market, no production.c
 
The market for 300 hp engines is pretty small. I can't see this story being accurate. The volume isn't worth the necessary investment by Rotax.
 
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How many experimental 6 cylinder engines sold each year? No market, no production.c
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Rotax does make certificated engines; I'm sure that if that six-banger did exist, it would have been run through the cert process as well.
 
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Story doesnt seem the least bit plausible.

The motor that has the majority of the 300 hp piston engine new aircraft market today is Continental (think Cirrus), not Lycoming. And displacing Continental motors in Cirrus aircraft would be a non-starter, since both are owned by the same Chinese government parent company. The Mooney, Bonanza and Baron are all still being built with Continentals as well.

Lycoming's 300 hp motor is only used in a few low volume airplanes, like the Extra and the Gipps Airvan (24 sales and 7 sales, respectively, in 2018)
 
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GRG55 said:
Story doesnt seem the least bit plausible.

The motor that has the majority of the 300 hp piston engine new aircraft market today is Continental (think Cirrus), not Lycoming. And displacing Continental motors in Cirrus aircraft would be a non-starter, since both are owned by the same Chinese government parent company.
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Check out the engine in the SR20 ... it's no Conti.
 
Looks like a screenshot from FB. That's your problem, thinking that anything posted there is even remotely related to the truth.
 
And in 1971 a man in Iowa developed a 150hp engine that ran on water and dryer lint but the oil companies bought exclusive rights to it and 3 months later the man died and all documents surrounding his death the investigation of it have since gone missing.
 
if its on the internet it has to be true.
 
As Maverick said, "I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you". It's top secret shhhhh!
 
GRG55 said:
Check out the engine in the SR20. It's not 300 hp (which is what this thread is about).
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The point was that Cirrus is not beholden to Conti as their sole engine supplier.
 
"Lycoming bought, paid for 15 years of future royalties"... So, the claim is that Lycoming bought out the revenues for 15 years of production?
 
Why would Lycoming buy the IP and then pay royalties? Seems like someone uniformed and working on sound bites that may not be totally accurate. So Facebook in general.
 
Given that this came from Facebook it basically has the validity equivalent of what the drunk homeless man who's wet himself shouts in the street... actually, comparing Facebook to him is an insult to the homeless man

*Rotax will eventually build larger and larger more powerful, and certified engines for aircraft.. it's just the natural course of evolution. It will take a while, but with EA thriving (relatively) there is a (albeit small) market for this

PS - in the 0.000001% chance that this is infact true, then clearly Rotax at the time thought it made sense financially, as did Lycoming. As someone else stated there is a very small market for 300hp aircraft engines... it's basically Cirrus (if we look at any kind of volume). Knowing that Cirrus is at the more advanced edge of the envelope and Lycos now being put in the SR20 they may have felt this was some good intellectual property to have to eventually, one day, push out Lyco or give buyers a choice (like Boeing / Airbus give a choice, on some models, between PW, RR, GE, etc.)

PPS - even if Conti / Cirrus have the same (or similar) financiers the world economic forces are still demand and $$ driven.. if someone builds a better mousetrap than the existing 300+ hp conti used that can be had for similar or less price point with the "proven" reliability I doubt they'd put an inferior product into a plane, and continue to do so
 
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