Regardless of the FAR, would you actually pay a CFII, or let someone pic who wasn’t tailwheel??
if the student is PPL, he will get PIC time when receiving dual IR training, even in actuals.I don’t honk student can log PIC while receiving dual for a rating they don’t have. Certainly can’t in IMC
You are right!! When I recently restarted my instrument training... my instructor filled out my logbook. He didn’t write in any PIC for me. I asked about it a few lesson later and he said that he didn’t Think I could. I let it go as it didn’t matter for amount of hours I had. Probably each flight in beginning would be 0.1 that I wasn’t at controls. My be handy to log those as I was sole manipulator of controls.if the student is PPL, he will get PIC time when receiving dual IR training, even in actuals.
https://www.aopa.org/training-and-s...ject-report-logging-pilot-in-command-pic-time
"A pilot, whether acting as PIC or not, may log PIC time anytime in which he/she is sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft for which he/she is rated (FAR 61.51). This is true regardless of weather conditions, whether VFR or IFR, simulated or actual."
if the student is PPL, he will get PIC time when receiving dual IR training, even in actuals.
https://www.aopa.org/training-and-s...ject-report-logging-pilot-in-command-pic-time
"A pilot, whether acting as PIC or not, may log PIC time anytime in which he/she is sole manipulator of the controls of an aircraft for which he/she is rated (FAR 61.51). This is true regardless of weather conditions, whether VFR or IFR, simulated or actual."
The rules of logging flight time, although 90% settled for decades*, is a continual source of confusion. I've seen instructors insulted over it ("what else don't they know?"), but I suspect it's the very best instructors - who don't hang out online where it has been discussed ad nauseum - who have the most difficulty with it.You are right!! When I recently restarted my instrument training... my instructor filled out my logbook. He didn’t write in any PIC for me. I asked about it a few lesson later and he said that he didn’t Think I could. I let it go as it didn’t matter for amount of hours I had. Probably each flight in beginning would be 0.1 that I wasn’t at controls. My be handy to log those as I was sole manipulator of controls.
Bill, its the 160 HP version.
I know you are correct, but imo that’s crazy crap to have two different definitions of PIC.What you can log as PIC time has nothing to do with the question asked.
Absolutely incorrect. Logging PIC and being PIC are two different things. Sole manipulator and rated and cat/class means you get to log it. Type of operation does not matter in this context.I don’t honk student can log PIC while receiving dual for a rating they don’t have. Certainly can’t in IMC
This is true, as long as you are rated in category and class on that private or higher certificate. It’s a minor nit to pick but it should be noted that there is some training after the private that may not be logged as PIC.
Nope...you’re rated in category/class, you can log PIC.Like? Tailwheel?
Which training???? I'm thinking seaplane or rotorwing or even glider but none of those require a private cert as a requisite for the training.It’s a minor nit to pick but it should be noted that there is some training after the private that may not be logged as PIC.
No, they don’t, but the question is about logging PIC while receiving instruction, which assumes Private or higher certification.Which training???? I'm thinking seaplane or rotorwing or even glider but none of those require a private cert as a requisite for the training.
If the student is under the hood, the CFI / safety pilot is a required crew member and needs a medical.Here's the short answer: NO, unless he is acting as PIC.
CFI's don't even need to have a current physical...
Yup..If the student is under the hood, the CFI / safety pilot is a required crew member and needs a medical.
If the student is under the hood, the CFI / safety pilot is a required crew member and needs a medical.
Yup..