Many people here don't work as pilots, and some work for very small flight departments.
Well that's true... if there's no will, there's no way. It does take incentive... but it's worth it.
What punishment would you rather see, assuming he filed an ASRS ??
Well.... than your earlier post of losing pay for the professional was bogus.... Right??
Personally, I'd like to see at least a 30 day suspension. Something. The guy landed on a friggin taxiway. Does anybody actually believe that if it had been any one of us, not a famous person with money, that the result would be the same?
I think a very thorough 709 ride was in order and if he passed, then that should be the end of it. He screwed up, he owned up to it, and I don't think punishment is necessary for something completely unintentional that didn't result in an accident.
Yes, I believe that folks who present themselves well in such a situation can avoid serious sanction. Ford obviously fessed up from his tone in the call to the tower.
Are you not familiar with ASRS??
When someone over the age of 70 makes a serious mistake like this, I think it's reasonable to make sure they still have the cognitive skills required to be a pilot. I think a long chat and a flight into a busy airport to make sure he can stay ahead of the plane would be appropriate.
Yes, I agree. The whole series of events just screamed "poor situational awareness" which is dangerous for any pilot, and especially one flying into busy airspace. In someone Ford's age (or even mine, for that matter!), if that turns out to be an ongoing problem then maybe he shouldn't be flying. OTOH, anyone can have a bad day, and a 709 ride would sort that out.
"Purely?" No, but perhaps in a different way than you mean.
I actually believe it.
My only beef with him not having some down time is that the Delta guys who landed the 767 on the taxiway at ATL had to sit on the ground several months before they were allowed to fly again and if you are familiar with the details, that situation was a lot more understandable than HFs mistake.
I'm not familiar with the Delta mishap. How long ago was this?
WSJ said:
It was 2009. They were on an international flight from Rio that experienced a medical emergency (the check airman who happened to be the required relief pilot for the long flight fell ill during the flight). As a result, the flight crew through no real fault of their own was beyond the max flight time and admittedly fatigued. They were given three different runway changes during the approach and on the final change, they were gigged for failing to brief the NOTAMs during the approach briefing. One of those NOTAMs was the ILS for the assigned runway was out of service. So…FO is pre-occupied/distracted messing with the nav radio trying to figure out why they aren't getting the ILS and doesn't notice that the Captain lined up on the taxiway.
Did he eat the fish?
I guess there are no airports to divert to between Rio and Atlanta. The "no real fault" is just a bit hollow.
Personally, I disagree. If the FAA is going to punish someone what's the point of a little 30 day suspension, in my eyes, that does absolutely nothing in teaching the "party" a lesson. And as @midlifeflyer said, I do believe, under the same general circumstances as Ford except without the celebrity status, that the result would be the same.
What is the danger in landing over a passenger jet that you have in sight and pass over by 80'? I guess there's a possibility the wings will come off and the plane will fall straight down. He failed to follow an ATC instruction, but there wasn't any inherent danger.
Easy to prove your hypothesis. Land on a taxi way at a big Bravo airport and see what happens to you.
Just visiting a dead horse thread to see what's new.
If the facts don't fit, use alternative ones.
My bad, class C.
