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Ha, I think I had the reverse happen to me this week. A young person who is so tech-savvy they couldn't get what they needed because they ignored, or were unfamiliar with, the 'old-fashioned methods'.

I awoke around 6:00am and noticed this text on my cell phone:
"Help, my dog can't breathe"; time stamp of 2:39am.

I immediately lifted the house phone thinking it was out; nope, good dial tone.
I called the main number which directs people to where I am - working good, answering machine saying the home phone number.
I don't remember giving my cell number out to her; I think she harvested it when I called her once months ago. I don't always have my cell beside the bed anyway.

Maybe in the world of the youth, no one uses the legacy phone method, it's all text or WhatsApp?
 
Many of us older people read the nightmare story's of credit cards ripped off by employees, stores , hospitals , etc. hacked by outside thieves, on and on. My wife and I pay cash whenever possible, in resturants, super markets,etc. we do not bank on line and if someone gave me map coordinates as directions I'd tell them to shove it. If you don't like dealing with the public and being civil, you might do better in another field. Being civil and decent to one another is fading fast, replaced by road rage, guns as communication , and insults. It ain't gonna work!
 
https://map.what3words.com/

Both accurate AND easy to remember. For example, East side of main entrance to Signature Flight service at Huntsville (KHSV): "remakes.burgundy.dance".
 
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Mistake Not... said:
https://map.what3words.com/

Both accurate AND easy to remember. For example, East side of main entrance to Signature Flight service at Huntsville (KHSV): "remakes.burgundy.dance".
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Like HELL it is.

remake.burgundy.dance is in the middle of nowhere, Western Australia. Notice the VERY SLIGHT typo.

And remakes.burgundy.dancer is in southwest Queensland.
 
MAKG1 said:
Like HELL it is.

remake.burgundy.dance is in the middle of nowhere, Western Australia. Notice the VERY SLIGHT typo.

And remakes.burgundy.dancer is in southwest Queensland.
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Not to mention my office which is not very large had about 300 different locations - none of which were related.

You know they could limit it to three words and it would still work.
Street, City, State

Hey, that seems familiar.
 
MAKG1 said:
Like HELL it is.

remake.burgundy.dance is in the middle of nowhere, Western Australia. Notice the VERY SLIGHT typo.

And remakes.burgundy.dancer is in southwest Queensland.
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Posted mostly for fun, but I forgot which forum I was on.

So... if you plugged those three words into a GPS and ended up with "no route to destination", would you just give up, or wonder if maybe you'd spelled it wrong? OTOH, transpose a few digits of a lat/lon, or the numbers in a street address, and you really can't tell.
 
But if I punch in 1482 Main vs 1842 Main, I'm still only half a mile from my destination, not 4 states or another continent off, and I'm still on the correct street.
 
EdFred said:
Not to mention my office which is not very large had about 300 different locations - none of which were related.

You know they could limit it to three words and it would still work.
Street, City, State

Hey, that seems familiar.
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It does! How awesome. But... what about areas that don't have an address? You know... like the site explains that large parts of the world don't?
 
Mistake Not... said:
It does! How awesome. But... what about areas that don't have an address? You know... like the site explains that large parts of the world doesn't?
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Just like when we ATV in the Upper Peninsula.
"It's back on that trail, just past Kentucky Corners before you get to..."
 
Mistake Not... said:
It does! How awesome. But... what about areas that don't have an address? You know... like the site explains that large parts of the world don't?
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That's how Japan does it. The city is divided into named sections, then smaller sections, and smaller until a certain small size is reached, and the buildings are numbered in the order they are built. Many address have dashes (I used to live at 1-1 Horai-cho, a suburb outside of the prefectural capital), but darned if I could figure out the reasoning behind them. The capital city of 300,000 (a small rural town there) had only three streets with names . . .
 
Hank S said:
That's how Japan does it. The city is divided into named sections, then smaller sections, and smaller until a certain small size is reached, and the buildings are numbered in the order they are built. Many address have dashes (I used to live at 1-1 Horai-cho, a suburb outside of the prefectural capital), but darned if I could figure out the reasoning behind them. The capital city of 300,000 (a small rural town there) had only three streets with names . . .
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I like the concept except for the bold part. It's fine if you know which order they were built, but looking at how things go up around here, the number order would be completely random when looked at.
 
Hank S said:
That's how Japan does it. The city is divided into named sections, then smaller sections, and smaller until a certain small size is reached, and the buildings are numbered in the order they are built. Many address have dashes (I used to live at 1-1 Horai-cho, a suburb outside of the prefectural capital), but darned if I could figure out the reasoning behind them. The capital city of 300,000 (a small rural town there) had only three streets with names . . .
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And it's a helluva nasty job trying to find an address in Japan, especially in a big city like Tokyo. Addresses tend to be very long -- some I've chased are six levels deep, and the first 3-4 are named somewhat arbitrarily.

The cops help (a lot), at least.
 
EdFred said:
I like the concept except for the bold part. It's fine if you know which order they were built, but looking at how things go up around here, the number order would be completely random when looked at.
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Yep. Taxi drivers don't like taking you to someone's house you've never been to before, for exactly that reason. They fuss, mumble under their breath and fetch the atlas from the trunk . . . And as stated above, addresses are often more than our standard two lines. And each line will have two levels. A friend of mine worked in Shin-machi, or "New Town" district of the city. Then another zone and a number. Very confusing . . . "Meet me here" directions often feature hand-drawn maps and landmarks. I rode the bus to the last stop downtown and walked three blocks to Mr. Donut, where many instruction sets started.
 
I'll stick with the Midwest, east/west and north/south grids. Named streets run N/S and numbered run E/W. First street is downtown. One place I lived had the named streets named in the order they became States.
 
Matthew said:
I'll stick with the Midwest, east/west and north/south grids. Named streets run N/S and numbered run E/W. First street is downtown. One place I lived had the named streets named in the order they became States.
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But it can be confusing when cities have both numbered streets and avenues. Way back when GPS in rental cars were a new thing, the person who was driving insisted on using it, then typed in "street" instead of "avenue" or vice versa. I had gotten the directions to the hotel from the FBO so I could tell we were going in the wrong direction. Not only that, I had seen it from the air when we were on final. He gave up when the GPS put us on a toll road and he had to pay...
 
Everskyward said:
But it can be confusing when cities have both numbered streets and avenues. Way back when GPS in rental cars were a new thing, the person who was driving insisted on using it, then typed in "street" instead of "avenue" or vice versa. I had gotten the directions to the hotel from the FBO so I could tell we were going in the wrong direction. Not only that, I had seen it from the air when we were on final. He gave up when the GPS put us on a toll road and he had to pay...
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St Petersburg Florida is one of those places. Children of the Magenta line aren't limited to airplanes. I love looking at maps, and usually scope out a city enough to the point where I shouldn't need a map or GPS once I get there.
 
EdFred said:
St Petersburg Florida is one of those places. Children of the Magenta line aren't limited to airplanes. I love looking at maps, and usually scope out a city enough to the point where I shouldn't need a map or GPS once I get there.
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Lots and lots of places have that problem.

It gets even worse when places have cardinal directions in their addresses, like Seattle or Salt Lake City or Akron or Washington DC. People tend to leave them off. Especially Washington DC. 6th & K NW is very different from 6th & K SW. One means dodging lobbyists, the other crack dealers (unless it's improved a lot in the nearly 20 years since I lived in DC).
 
We have NE NW SE SW in our county and that's an outstanding way to do it.

It's pretty easy to figure out. Fulton separates the N from the S and division separates E and W. And that goes for every street in the county. You know if it has an SE in the address it's S of Fulton and E of Division. So when someone give you an address of 2345 Something Ave SW, you already know where about in town it is. S of Fulton and W of Division.

Plus every 800 block is 1 mile and all the Aves run N and S, and the Streets run E and W. So when someone says 2300 44th St SW, I know exactly where it is. 44th is 5-1/2 miles south of Fulton, and I am going to be 3 miles west of Division.

Super easy to figure out.
 
EdFred said:
We have NE NW SE SW in our county and that's an outstanding way to do it.

It's pretty easy to figure out. Fulton separates the N from the S and division separates E and W. And that goes for every street in the county. You know if it has an SE in the address it's S of Fulton and E of Division. So when someone give you an address of 2345 Something Ave SW, you already know where about in town it is. S of Fulton and W of Division.

Plus every 800 block is 1 mile and all the Aves run N and S, and the Streets run E and W. So when someone says 2300 44th St SW, I know exactly where it is. 44th is 5-1/2 miles south of Fulton, and I am going to be 3 miles west of Division.

Super easy to figure out.
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Unless someone abbreviates.

Where the hell is 5th and 27th?

Happens more than it should.

There are various grid systems, and most of them simplify IF you know how they work. For instance, most addresses in California outside the oldest parts of the cities represent distance in thousandths of a mile along the township/range grid centered on the county seat. If they are descending, you are heading toward town. If you don't know this, it's useless.
 
Cheyenne Wells in eastern Colorado has the weirdest system that I've seen..... the roads numbers all radiate out from the town center, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.... the first block in all directions is 1st St., then the second block is all 2nd St., and so on....addresses wind up being something like 325 N 4th W., which would be in the 3rd block of 4th north of 1st and west of the town hall in the middle...if someone swapped the directional parts of the address it got interesting.
 
MAKG1 said:
Unless someone abbreviates.

Where the hell is 5th and 27th?

Happens more than it should.

There are various grid systems, and most of them simplify IF you know how they work. For instance, most addresses in California outside the oldest parts of the cities represent distance in thousandths of a mile along the township/range grid centered on the county seat. If they are descending, you are heading toward town. If you don't know this, it's useless.
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We have No fifth and 27th the only roads that are numbered are streets there are no numbered avenues so if you see a numbered name it runs east and west. very easy .
 
Downtown Huntington, WV numbers Avenues starting at the riverbank and moving toward the ridgeline. Crossroads are all streets, also numbered. 1st St. W. is on the other side of the tracks and increases as you leave town. Then the city limits are reached, and in West Huntington the Avenues are named after Presidents.

Lived there nine years, just didn't go downtown very often . . . But so many out-of-town coworkers had to take their picture by the street sign at the corner of 5th Avenue and 5th Street.
 
In Costa Rica there are no addresses. Just location descriptions. Example if looking for the bank, go one block west and two blocks south of Pizza Hut. So...... ya gotta know where Pizza Hut is first.....:confused:
 
Zeldman said:
In Costa Rica there are no addresses. Just location descriptions. Example if looking for the bank, go one block west and two blocks south of Pizza Hut. So...... ya gotta know where Pizza Hut is first.....:confused:
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Well... duh, it's two blocks north and one block east of the Bank!
 
S450 ft of the W300ft of the E1200 ft of the SE 1/4 of section 4. That's approximately the legal description of my location. And no need to worry about stree numbers or names.
 
Zeldman said:
In Costa Rica there are no addresses. Just location descriptions.
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I lived there for a while and, thank God it was a small country, because there were no freakin' road names! Imagine using a GPS for navigation down there would be interesting with no addresses to enter in.
 
So during my annual migration from Colorado to Ohio last April, I decide to stop at some airplane and engine kit manufacturers. First Stop, Rans, easy to find just off I-70. Great pepole and nice visit. Second stop, Great Plains Aircraft which, according to Google, since the web site had no address, is in Omaha. Following Google Maps, I wind up in the middle of a new housing development. Thinking perhaps the office is in somebody's basement, I call the factory and ask for the address. Guy gives me some location that sounds very strange. I ask "Are you in Omaha?" He replies "We were but we moved to Afton Oklahoma two years ago." BTW, Google still has them in Omaha and the web site now has an address.

Cheers
 
X3 Skier said:
So during my annual migration from Colorado to Ohio last April, I decide to stop at some airplane and engine kit manufacturers. First Stop, Rans, easy to find just off I-70. Great pepole and nice visit. Second stop, Great Plains Aircraft which, according to Google, since the web site had no address, is in Omaha. Following Google Maps, I wind up in the middle of a new housing development. Thinking perhaps the office is in somebody's basement, I call the factory and ask for the address. Guy gives me some location that sounds very strange. I ask "Are you in Omaha?" He replies "We were but we moved to Afton Oklahoma two years ago." BTW, Google still has them in Omaha and the web site now has an address.

Cheers
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Google isn't to be trusted. If you don't play by their rules they don't return updated results or your website, and it goes beyond SEO. Had a looooooong talk with a specialist on why this was the case with Google, and it makes me dislike and distrust them even more.
 
EdFred said:
We have No fifth and 27th the only roads that are numbered are streets there are no numbered avenues so if you see a numbered name it runs east and west. very easy .
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OTOH, Allegan County has avenues running N/S and streets running E/W (or maybe it's the other way around). When I was visiting there a long time ago I figured they were copying NYC. I don't recall if the ranges of the numbers for streets and avenues overlap, though.
 
azure said:
OTOH, Allegan County has avenues running N/S and streets running E/W (or maybe it's the other way around). When I was visiting there a long time ago I figured they were copying NYC. I don't recall if the ranges of the numbers for streets and avenues overlap, though.
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The avenues run east west and the streets run north south. The lowest numbered streets start at the east and go west And the lowest numbered avenues are at the south of the County And get larger as you go north
 
AggieMike88 said:
I pick up the phone to help the sales team during a busy period...

"Thanks for calling, how can I help you?"

"I need to come get a part I called about, how to I get to where you are?"​

"Okay, do you have a smart phone such as Android or iPhone?"

"I think so, it's a Samsung."​

"Good, that has the Google App. If you look up the name of the business, Google will provide a map and your phone's GPS..."

"(interrupts) Oh, I did use Google... that's how I got your phone number. But how do I get to your place?"​

"Go back to Google, look us up, find the map, and it will give you directio..."

"I don't know how to do that, can you just tell me your address? Then I'll put it in my car's GPS."​

-- = sigh = --​

I keep expecting them to respond, "... but it's got electrolytes, that's what plants crave"
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I would never do business with a pompous ass like you. You sound like a junior high school girl.

Jim Spencer
Flint, TX
 
N5922S said:
I would never do business with a pompous ass like you. You sound like a junior high school girl.

Jim Spencer
Flint, TX
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it's what is great about our country, freedom of choice.
 
EdFred said:
S450 ft of the W300ft of the E1200 ft of the SE 1/4 of section 4. That's approximately the legal description of my location. And no need to worry about stree numbers or names.
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Oh...you can't forget the township and range info!! Of course, I'm in the oil & gas land business, so this is everyday stuff for me. :smilewinkgrin:
 
To come to Mike's rescue, he never actually said that he refused service to this customer and did not provide the business address.
He was venting after an encounter with a not-so-perfect customer.

Should we treat all customers with respect, equally? Sure.
Are all customers smart? Nope.
Do the others still deserve our service? Yes.
Do we have the right to vent about a silly encounter that made us frustrated? Hell NO! This ain't 'murica! No freedom of expression. This is PoA. We bash whatever people post here. And we did a swell job on this one.
PoA to the rescue! (I am being sarcastic, btw)
 
overdrive148 said:
I have had to explain to more than one customer that dryers do not come with a cord/plug and some swear up and down that I'm trying to upsell them. Walking them over to the dryer cord selection in store tends to help a most visualize why if my explanation doesn't but still.
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And I've had a salesman insist I needed to buy that cord for a GAS dryer. :)

If the customer calls in for the address, give them the address -- and maybe any verbal directions that help them find the place where the GPS might fall short if you're in that kind of place.
 
When our county got 911 we switched from route and box numbers to numbered township and county roads. Complete cluster. No rhyme or reason to the number. And if you had a driveway more than 350' long it became a numbered private drive. So the address went from being
rt..5 box 517 to
345 private drive 1127 county road 8.

Rumor has it a lady called 911 after the switch and then died waiting on the ambulance because they couldn't find her until they got her old rt number.
 
Yeah, the whole "Private Drive" thing was an unmitigated disaster!

I lived in NC when 911 was implemented there, and every dirt road, trail and goat path received a name, and street signs were placed for all of them--paved roads green, dirt roads blue.

Then I moved into Private drive hell, and the county eliminated names for all roads outside the city limits, they were either US Hwy XX, State Highway YY, County Road ZZ or Private Drive XYZZ. Then they helpfully took down all of the old named road signs and didn't bother out in up highway signs . . . Never did figure that out, and had a difficult time learning my way around. Don't live there any more. But it's still a disaster!
 
Few years ago, fire trucks went past me (I'm S of town) then flew back the other way a few moments later.
The address they had been given using the new format was 12345 (yes 5 digits in a tiny town of 800) South.
So they took off south.
Nope.
"South" does not refer to south of this town, it refers to south of a town 75 miles away!
They were to go to a place north of our town.
This has still not been fixed.
 
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