How will you know when you are done?

SixPapaCharlie

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Saw the "How old were you when you started" thread.

What is the "milestone" that you expect to be the indicator that you have completed your role as PIC?
 
Saw the "How old were you when you started" thread.

What is the "milestone" that you expect to be the indicator that you have completed your role as PIC?

I made that decision when I realized that I did not fly enough to maintain proficiency.
 
For me, that came 25 months ago. I really enjoyed the challenge of flying for 14 years. When our kids lived on the east coast, it was useful for travel. My wife never enjoyed it, but did appreciate it as a mode of travel. Most of the time it worked out well, although she was scared on two sorta-close encounters with thunderstorms and one electrical smoke in the cockpit encounter (thankfully the smoke one was in VMC).

With us in NC, and the kids in CA and TX, though, we simply did not use the plane enough to justify the cost. The entire last year was 35 hours-- just flying the plane every 2-3 weeks to circle some local landmark to lubricate the engine. One does not need a booted/radar 210 to do that.

If the kids end up on the east coast, I could see myself possibly getting back in it, but not IFR, and possible in a partnership.

Wells
 
This is a really good question, one I have pondered quite a bit. I am in the 'planning the end' stage of my life and why not plan for this as well? We don't have full control of a lot of these things but sometimes we can influence them.
I don't have a good answer yet but some things come to mind.

a) Look back on how pilots you knew left. I have read about some who hid medical problems til they collapsed at the controls and took out the plane and passengers. I know one who lost so much hearing that the aviation authority took away his ticket. I know some who just felt uncomfortable with things and stepped down.


b) Goals.
-leave before you damage an airplane or property
-leave before you injure or kill anyone
-leave before the FAA tells you to.
-leave before family and friends are talking about how you should
One strategy is to move to a less complex, lighter aircraft.
 
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There are two types of pilots, those that know a flight will be their last and those that don't.
 
I hope I last as long as my Dad. He had a current class III medical until last year when ha sold his Aztec. He now flies his Remos LSA. He turned 88 last month and I would fly with him anytime. Don
 
I hope I last as long as my Dad. He had a current class III medical until last year when ha sold his Aztec. He now flies his Remos LSA. He turned 88 last month and I would fly with him anytime. Don

:yeahthat:
 
When I stopped scuba diving it was because I felt really uncomfortable on a couple of dive. Routine dive with nothing much going on, but I just wanted to be *anywhere* else. So came home and sold my gear

I hope I treat skydiving and flying the same way. As long as I am comfortable with my abilities and still enjoy it, I'll keep on keeping on.
 
I've seen super sharp folks who are nearly 90, I've seen folks in their 30s who I honestly to know how they are still alive.

Guess it's a know thy self thing
 
When I can't pass the medical anymore
 
I had a couple older gentlemen that were friends of mine, they both quit flying for the same reason. They could still fly the airplane as well as anyone, they just couldn't remember where they were going! :rofl:
I am not making it up, they both realized that they just weren't as sharp mentally as they once were and quit flying, but the day they quit I would have flown anywhere with either of them. Great men and great pilots, they just knew it was time to quit. I hope I have a lot of flying in front of me and I also hope I know when it's time to quit! :D
 
When I can't pass the medical anymore

For me, I will give up flying before this day happens.

Actually, for the last 3 years I have been trying to fly less. The business plan has already taken me out of our planes. This is how I was able to take off and spend the summer in Alaska. I may do that again next summer.
 
You are done when that little white thing pops up out of your chest.



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Dunno :dunno:

Aside from a condition that effectively precludes flying, I'm hoping, like pornography, this fits into the "I'll know it when I see it" category.

I'm not going to anticipate a specific set of criteria that may or may not occur. I'd be concerned it would lead me to miss others that could be important.
 
Here's the thing - the stress (read "fear") is cumulative, like radiation exposure. Over a long enough period, and with enough close calls or rough experiences, your subconscious starts raising hell with you for putting it in those situations. A USAF medico (medical or psych, I can't remember) wrote a book about it.

You get that "anyplace else but here" effect.

Shorter term, after a big scare, the old "get back on the horse" approach works pretty well. Or, after a brief(ish) pause, let that near-trauma fade a bit, and you're good to go. Like we tell students to persevere, and not pack it in too soon.

Some satisfaction and self actualization springs from success (handling the x-wind, turbulence, etc.), but the "out of my control" events take a bigger toll - like near-misses, real partial panel in tough IFR, being a witness to a fatal, etc.

It ain't age so much as experience, though there is clearly correlation.
 
When I'm wishing I was down on the ground. Rather than up in the air,hopefully a long time from now,
 
When I can no longer roll my wheelchair from the nursing home to the airport and bribing the nurses does not work anymore.
 
Here's the thing - the stress (read "fear") is cumulative, like radiation exposure. Over a long enough period, and with enough close calls or rough experiences, your subconscious starts raising hell with you for putting it in those situations. A USAF medico (medical or psych, I can't remember) wrote a book about it.

You get that "anyplace else but here" effect.

Shorter term, after a big scare, the old "get back on the horse" approach works pretty well. Or, after a brief(ish) pause, let that near-trauma fade a bit, and you're good to go. Like we tell students to persevere, and not pack it in too soon.

Some satisfaction and self actualization springs from success (handling the x-wind, turbulence, etc.), but the "out of my control" events take a bigger toll - like near-misses, real partial panel in tough IFR, being a witness to a fatal, etc.

It ain't age so much as experience, though there is clearly correlation.

That brings up the question, "how much is enough"? It's an interesting observation, but I'm not sure how universally true it holds. There's no doubt that there were pilots who left the war and never climbed in a cockpit again, then there are those who never stopped. I guess the answer is as varied as to that of the OP.
 
When it isn't fun or useful anymore. Lots of people keep on with activities after the love is gone cause they have defined themselves as a person that does X. Screw that, my ego is robust enough to move onto whatever is next.
 
When I can't pass the medical anymore

I *could* pass the medical, *if* I felt like dumping another suitcase load of money into the healthcare system to pass FAA required tests. Tests that my cardiologist Lol'd and told me aren't medically necessary.

Still sitting on the fence about selling my share. Hmmmm. :confused:
 
Well, seeing as though the POA guys are an expert on everything aviation, I'll assume they'll tell me.
 
When it isn't fun or useful anymore. Lots of people keep on with activities after the love is gone cause they have defined themselves as a person that does X. Screw that, my ego is robust enough to move onto whatever is next.
As a real answer, I kinda like this one.
 
I fly for a living and I have tried to quit flying twice. Both times I returned. Partly for the money but mostly because I Like to fly.

And also because working for a living sucks...:yes::lol::lol:
 
I think it's come time for me to hang it up. The ability to get a medical is in question, also, finances being a single income household with 3 kids doesn't leave a lot left for flying. Thankfully the last flight i took as PIC was when I asked my wife to marry me, and was also able to give my 2 stepkids their first airplane ride. When my son is a little older, I'll probably get a CFI to fly right seat for me and take him for his first ride too.
 
I'll give up flying when it doesn't serve a purpose for me. Flying has always been very useful for me since day one, and has only become more useful as the years have gone on. I see that staying the case for years to come.

If medical issues come up or finances make it so I can't afford to fly a plane that fits the mission (which is the 310 for the foreseeable future), then it'll be time to hang it up.
 
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