Regs on the ELT

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91.207 talks about the regs for the elt. If the batteries need replaced, can an owner with at least a ppl make the replacement and write it in the log book, or does an A&P have to do that?
Can't seem to find the answer in part 43 either.
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Yes you can. 43 A (C)

Replacing and servicing batteries. When replacing your airplane's battery, use only an approved battery for your make and model airplane. You are also permitted to add water (distilled water) and charge your battery. If you need to clean the battery, terminals, or battery box area, baking soda works about the best. Flush with fresh water when you're completed. Don't allow any baking soda to enter the battery.

Emergency Locator Transmitter battery replacement is also permitted, provided you are able to follow the manufacturer's recommendations. Don't forget that the new expiration date for replacing (or recharging) the battery must be legibly marked on the outside of the transmitter and entered in the aircraft maintenance record.
 
91.207 talks about the regs for the elt. If the batteries need replaced, can an owner with at least a ppl make the replacement and write it in the log book, or does an A&P have to do that?
Can't seem to find the answer in part 43 either.

Yes, replacing the battery is preventative maintenance. However, you need to be able to follow the manufacturers maintenance manual, which can be more difficult than it sounds. The 406 MHz ELTs can be especially difficult. The instructions for the Kannad 406 MHz ELT in my bosses 182 was painful enough that I just had an avionics shop do the battery change.

Ryan
 
Yes you can. 43 A (C)

Replacing and servicing batteries. When replacing your airplane's battery, use only an approved battery for your make and model airplane. You are also permitted to add water (distilled water) and charge your battery.
A little thread drift but the rules on aircraft batteries have changed and you no longer need to stick with the battery listed on the TCDS for most of the airplanes we fly.
 
A little thread drift but the rules on aircraft batteries have changed and you no longer need to stick with the battery listed on the TCDS for most of the airplanes we fly.

Got a reference for that?
 
A little thread drift but the rules on aircraft batteries have changed and you no longer need to stick with the battery listed on the TCDS for most of the airplanes we fly.

Eh? You were never required to stick to the battery on the TCDS (which is good because they haven't made the battery on the Navion type certificate in decades. You still need to follow the proper authority for making that installation (PMA or STC as appropriate).
 
Got a reference for that?

There are a few limitations (e.g. Certified before 1980, under 12,500 MGW, unpressurized):

(AC) 23-27, issued in May 2009, allows owners with aircraft Type-Certified before 1980, and meeting certain criteria, to simply replace the current battery on the TC or STC, with an FAA-PMA Concorde battery similar in form, fit and function.

Why is this important? It’s significant because it means, even in the absence of an STC or PMA, there need only be a log book entry to install on many aircraft, whether out of production or still being manufactured today. “These guidelines will help owners avoid having to obtain field approval for like substitutions on subsequent aircraft.”

Applicability:
Small aircraft type certified before January 1, 1980
Maximum certificated weight of 12,500 pounds or less
Fixed wing, un-pressurized, reciprocating engine or sailplane
“Follow-on Type Certificate (TC) Models of the same aircraft, or a derivative thereof, which may be assigned a later TC date, also meet this criteria.”

Advisory Circular 23-27 is a living document and sections may be added to the Appendices as additional data is gathered. The following information is contained in AC23-27:

Batteries (Excerpt – Appendix 1 “Parts Substitutions”):
“If one type of series 35 battery (e.g. a Gill 35) is approved as original equipment or a PMA part, and another type of series 35 battery (e.g. a CONCORDE 35) is PMA approved for some aircraft models but not your model aircraft, you may install the alternate type of series 35 battery and document the installation with only a logbook entry.”

“As long as the batteries are the same weight, within plus or minus one pound, and have such similar physical characteristics as to enable the use of the same securing or attaching devices, mechanisms, or containers.”

AC 23-27 is directly accessed on the FAA website via this address:

http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_23-27.pdf
 
There are a few limitations

Yeah,, you betcha..

that's why the new type batteries have STC already in their boxes.

Or on line where you can simply print them off.

What will you do at the next annual when the IA is an old As-hole like me and wants to see the paperwork showing this is not a major.
 
Eh? You were never required to stick to the battery on the TCDS (which is good because they haven't made the battery on the Navion type certificate in decades. You still need to follow the proper authority for making that installation (PMA or STC as appropriate).

Lead acid for a lead acid is pretty much a gimmy, fit form and function type thing.
changing from a wet cell lead acid, to a jell cell (etc) is a change/modification rules must be followed.

The type of battery is the key, type certificate/ production certificate says lead acid, any manufacturer is good.

Change from one type to any other is a modification.
 
You're telling me that you are using something other than a lead-acid battery in a light plane?
 
An AGM battery IS a lead-acid battery. But that has nothing to do with replacement ELT batteries.

For ELTs follow the manufacturer's instructions for battery replacement. My own 406 battery is simple to replace. Who does it has never been an issue but my mechanic does inspect and test the ELT at every annual so the battery date is documented in the maintenance logs. My battery life is 6 years and is confirmed regularly during the occasional ELT function test at the panel switch. That part is the pilot's responsibility.
 
Order the new battery from spruce for your plane, follow included directions, make logbook entry, done.
 
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