Correct, that’s where the hold line is. So unless cleared to cross you wouldn’t cross that either. But the stop bar lights must go out, no matter what ATC says. And I also wouldn’t enter if the red runway status lights were on.
Don’t ever cross stop bar lights. Even if ATC tells you to. When cleared to cross/enter, red stop bar lights should extinguish and taxiway centerline lights should illuminate.
AIM 2-1-10 e. Stop Bar Lights.
Stop bar lights, when installed, are used to confirm the ATC clearance to enter or cross...