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    Stall speed - gear up vs gear down

    The rain man is the guy who doesn't understand you still have a great deal of positive airspeed and flow over the wings and control surfaces in one of these type craft even in a hover so no, technically the wings are not stalled. For control surfaces to operate they must have that airflow.
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    Stall speed - gear up vs gear down

    There is no thrust vectoring in these aircraft. All the low speed maneuvers are performed using traditional control surfaces.
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    Stall speed - gear up vs gear down

    This side line was because someone said you could not compensate for additional drag with more thrust. All control surfaces have positive airflow at all speeds as demonstrated in the maneuvers due to that tremendous thrust. The fact you don't understand or agree doesn't make it wrong, the...
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    Stall speed - gear up vs gear down

    Thrust eliminates stalling even though all control surfaces have enough airflow to be active at 0kts ground speed as noted in transition, takeoff, and landing.
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    Stall speed - gear up vs gear down

    I'm not doubting you at all, I just don't know all the in's and out's. If you just look at the principle of how a lever works it makes perfect sense that the additional drag from the gear would create at least a slight nose down pitch and corresponding shift in CG. I have a great deal of...
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    100LL Debacle

    Definitely going to create some confusion and consternation in the industry for a while.
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    Stall speed - gear up vs gear down

    I don't know about that but I do know the turbulence they cause increases drag and affects lift which is why high speed, high performance aircraft were given retractable landing gear even though retractable gear causes a lot of crashes.
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    Stall speed - gear up vs gear down

    And without that thrust it is not possible thus the thrust lowers the stall speed to essentially a negative number. It's ok we're far afield now derailing the thread, you guys continue on.
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    Stall speed - gear up vs gear down

    Actually it does as the vertical lift aircraft and aerobatic aircraft demonstrate with propellers, not rockets.
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    Stall speed - gear up vs gear down

    The entire subject was brought up because I said that thrust is/can be used to counter drag thus maintaining the same climb and angle of attack.
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    Stall speed - gear up vs gear down

    I'm saying the opposite. Gear down creates additional drag, that's why the new Diamonds allow the use of landing gear at cruising speed to be used as a speed brake.
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    Stall speed - gear up vs gear down

    If the gear being down doesn't create more drag why would this be an issue?
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    Stall speed - gear up vs gear down

    Well when they lack enough thrust to keep climbing they tend to flip over and come down nose first at a very high rate of speed. The point is, if you apply enough thrust you can make a brick fly, thus thrust counters increased drag. Drag does not apply only to the airfoil it applies to the...
  14. O2 Birddog

    Stall speed - gear up vs gear down

    More drag requires more thrust to maintain the same stall speed. Observe the liftoff of a rocket sometime.
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    Stall speed - gear up vs gear down

    To over come it thus increasing stall speed.
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