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You stated your conclusion is universally true, it's your responsibility to provide evidence. I provided evidence, in the form of an explanation,...
Where is your data?
How do you know it isn't? Thrust available is higher at slower speeds. The climb angle will be steeper with flaps if the drag added by the...
If the Delta been Tr and Ta is higher at the flaps 20 climb speed it will not be universally stepper with the flaps up even at the optimum speed...
That is not universally true. Climb angle is a function of thrust available minus thrust required. In propeller driven aircraft, thrust...
If flaps "always decrease the climb performance" (Ryan F) why would they be specify flaps be used to clear any height of obstacle?
Why do some aircraft specify flaps to clear an obstacle after takeoff? Why would they recommend something that, as you put it, would "ham string"...
Maybe I was incorrect, and that you don't understand the topic after all.
Not what I'm referring to. The thread is about takeoff performance, not steady-state climb performance.
You already understand the topic, or at least I'll assume that you do. So of course it is clear to you. Those who don't understand the topic will...
Your statement is ambiguous, can be misinterpreted, and is not germane to the discussion on takeoff and obstacle climb performance.
The climb performance we're talking about is the distance measured from the start of the takeoff point to fifty feet AGL. Flaps do not "always"...
The 1975 is an M model. The specification for Flaps at 10° for a short-field takeoff started midway through the N-model. At some point Cessna...
Tons of POHs available online.
Seems like it might be worth it. Didn't you just say your TSA clearance expired anyway? So you need a new one no matter what?