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NotoriACE said:
great...now I feel like an @$$ :D
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You shouldn't. There is an ongoing "joke" to bash the competence of the TSA in this forum. You wouldn't have known that and I don't believe there was any malice in the Airplane! reference.
 
AggieMike88 said:
Ace --

Find a Blu Ray copy of the film "One Six Right". This is one of the best documentary's documenting the joy of general aviation, and features Van Nuys Airport. The quality of the filming and editing is, to quote Ted Logan, "Most Excellent!"

If you can't find the Blu-Ray, hulu.com has it for viewing.
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In my humble opinion, one of the finest modern-day aviation-related films ever made.
 
John221us said:
You shouldn't. There is an ongoing "joke" to bash the competence of the TSA in this forum. You wouldn't have known that and I don't believe there was any malice in the Airplane! reference.
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I thought he lurked. I think there are enough TSA references on PoA to know how pilots feel about the Terrorist Support Agency.
 
NotoriACE said:
Greebo said:
I just wanted to tell you, we're all counting on you. Good luck!
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I like that, thanks!

Luck is preparation, meeting opportunity.

That's why I am here, to prep for that opportunity! You guys are all influencing this! :)
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LOL! Greebo's post is a quote from Airplane! :rofl: :rofl:

<EDIT> Now that I see that there's a whole page after that, I also see that this base has been covered. DOH! :redface:
 
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NotoriACE said:
Would he not need his documents though to get through security?? Passport and such?
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We don't generally have any security to go through. That's why the TSA is such a joke. On one side of the airport people are getting molested to fight their way onto human mailing tubes. On the other side of the airport we walk through unlocked doors and stroll out to our airplanes without even talking to anyone.
 
jason said:
We don't generally have any security to go through. That's why the TSA is such a joke. On one side of the airport people are getting molested to fight their way onto human mailing tubes. On the other side of the airport we walk through unlocked doors and stroll out to our airplanes without even talking to anyone.
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I believe he was talking about an airline flight.
 
NotoriACE said:
great...now I feel like an @$$ :D
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No worse than having a conversation with Harrison Ford and saying to him, "Never tell me the odds, kid" or "I got a bad feeling about this"

or "Snakes....why did it have to be snakes?"
 
Sac Arrow said:
You go in, tell them you're a U.S. citizen, and that your passport was stolen. They will take all your information down, passport number, address, social security number, etc... and verify it. Depending on how much supporting documentation you have on your person, verification that you are who you say you are could be quick or it could take some time and you may have to have people back in the States vouch for you and fill out declaration forms. Once they are happy with all that, they produce a replacement passport. Process can take a few days.
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That seems pretty standard for anyone, but is it the same for a pilot on a commercial airline? Would they be prepped with more, just in case this happened? Would they receive special treatment?
 
hopmedic said:
LOL! Greebo's post is a quote from Airplane! :rofl: :rofl:

<EDIT> Now that I see that there's a whole page after that, I also see that this base has been covered. DOH! :redface:
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yup, thanks for throwing more salt in the wound...tsk tsk :mad2:
 
jason said:
We don't generally have any security to go through. That's why the TSA is such a joke. On one side of the airport people are getting molested to fight their way onto human mailing tubes. On the other side of the airport we walk through unlocked doors and stroll out to our airplanes without even talking to anyone.
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hmm, ok. This is interesting. So, then if I just showed up in a pilot uniform, they'd let me through?? I mean, if the pilot was robbed of all identification, all he had was his uniform, say...that COULD get me back on the plane to fly back, unnoticed?

I asked that original question, because it is a situation in the movie. SO...if that happened theoretically, my character would know he could just get through and on the plane...?
 
I went on a hike today, and I can't say how much more I noticed the action in the sky above me!! Crazy, just from you guys!
 
NotoriACE said:
hmm, ok. This is interesting. So, then if I just showed up in a pilot uniform, they'd let me through?? I mean, if the pilot was robbed of all identification, all he had was his uniform, say...that COULD get me back on the plane to fly back, unnoticed?

I asked that original question, because it is a situation in the movie. SO...if that happened theoretically, my character would know he could just get through and on the plane...?
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Commercial pilot is not synonymous with airline pilot.
 
NotoriACE said:
I went on a hike today, and I can't say how much more I noticed the action in the sky above me!! Crazy, just from you guys!
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I saw a blimp and a sea plane out my work window yesterday. Planes are everywhere. Just spend more time looking up. My biggest fear is when I'm driving near airports, I watch them too much, don't want to have an accident.
 
kimberlyanne546 said:
I saw a blimp and a sea plane out my work window yesterday. Planes are everywhere. Just spend more time looking up. My biggest fear is when I'm driving near airports, I watch them too much, don't want to have an accident.
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This is my problem every time I drive on the Belt Parkway near JFK. When the planes are flying the Parkway Visual approach to 13L/R at 1500', they follow the curving path of the highway. An impressive sight from the ground:)

http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1206/00610PARKWAY_VIS13LR.PDF
 
kimberlyanne546 said:
I saw a blimp and a sea plane out my work window yesterday. Planes are everywhere. Just spend more time looking up. My biggest fear is when I'm driving near airports, I watch them too much, don't want to have an accident.
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lol, keep your eyes on the road ma'am.
 
NotoriACE said:
ok so given that I'm a COMMERCIAL pilot in the film...
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Airline pilot holds an ATP (Airline Transport Pilot) license, which is a higher license than a commercial license.
 
redtail said:
This is my problem every time I drive on the Belt Parkway near JFK. When the planes are flying the Parkway Visual approach to 13L/R at 1500', they follow the curving path of the highway. An impressive sight from the ground:)

http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1206/00610PARKWAY_VIS13LR.PDF
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I'd love to fly this in the Skyhawk:lol:.

I've been waiting for years (since 1983) for a decent flightsim version of the Lead-In light system (curving path of strobe lights) at JFK! I guess it's just not that important to the programmers:dunno:
 
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NotoriACE said:
ok so given that I'm a COMMERCIAL pilot in the film...
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Being a commercial pilot just means that you're allowed to be paid to fly. It isn't just airline pilots that are commercial pilots. Commercial pilots are everything from your average flight instructor to guys flying skydivers to corporate jet pilots to the guys flying traffic helicopters to crop dusters to freight dogs flying packages at night. Similarly, having an ATP designation just means that you've passed the ATP requirements and tests. Many corporate pilots are ATPs. Just having an ATP doesn't mean that you're an airline pilot.

Being an airline pilot is just another job in aviation.

When I was referring to the "we can walk through a door without talking to anybody" thing, I simply meant general aviation. General aviation is any segment of aviation other than the airlines or the military. From us guys that just do it for fun/transportation to all of the other types of flying that I listed above.
 
NotoriACE said:
Would he not need his documents though to get through security?? Passport and such?
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I've never flown in a foreign country, but since you're talking about a commercial flight, I would say that he probably would.

What I am pretty sure of is that he is going to need a passport at the U.S. airport of entry, and the FAA requires pilots to carry their pilot certificates and medical certificates when piloting an aircraft. These things are true regardless of whether it's an airliner or a private aircraft.

In the U.S., private aircraft do have less in the way of security requirements, partly because the passengers are generally known to the pilots, or in the case of a corporate aircraft, are known to the company. For example, there is no such thing as a TSA prohibited items list for private aircraft.
 
NotoriACE said:
ok so given that I'm a COMMERCIAL pilot in the film...
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It's possible that the script writers could be using the term "commercial pilot" in the way that the general public understands the term, instead of the way that pilots use the term.

I think the general public's use of the term just means anyone who is licensed to fly commercial aircraft. (By the way, what the public refers to as a "pilot's license" is actually referred to as a "pilot certificate" by the FAA.)

In the FAA's nomenclature, there are actually two types of pilot certificate that allow flying for money: the airline transport pilot (ATP) certificate, and the commercial certificate. An ATP has more privileges than a commercial pilot.

(There is also the private pilot certificate, which only allows the pilot to fly private aircraft, and he/she can't get paid for doing it.)

If your character is flying an airliner, I think he would have to be an ATP in order to be the pilot in command (i.e., captain). (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.)
 
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jason said:
Being a commercial pilot just means that you're allowed to be paid to fly. It isn't just airline pilots that are commercial pilots. Commercial pilots are everything from your average flight instructor to guys flying skydivers to corporate jet pilots to the guys flying traffic helicopters to crop dusters to freight dogs flying packages at night. Similarly, having an ATP designation just means that you've passed the ATP requirements and tests. Many corporate pilots are ATPs. Just having an ATP doesn't mean that you're an airline pilot.

Being an airline pilot is just another job in aviation.

When I was referring to the "we can walk through a door without talking to anybody" thing, I simply meant general aviation. General aviation is any segment of aviation other than the airlines or the military. From us guys that just do it for fun/transportation to all of the other types of flying that I listed above.
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Ohh!! Then I perhaps could have been more clear. I fly for a big airline, imagine like a United, or the like.
 
BrianNC said:
Many actors who are pilots: Tom Cruise, Harrison Ford, Angelina Jolie, Morgan Freeman, etc, etc,
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Leonard Nimoy, Michael Dorn, Bill Shatner, Brad Pitt, Travolta,....

altho Nimoy & Shatner don't fly anymore. Neither has a current medical.
 
Palmpilot said:
It's possible that the script writers could be using the term "commercial pilot" in the way that the general public understands the term, instead of the way that pilots use the term.

I think the general public's use of the term just means anyone who is licensed to fly commercial aircraft. (By the way, what the public refers to as a "pilot's license" is actually referred to as a "pilot certificate" by the FAA.)

In the FAA's nomenclature, there are actually two types of pilot certificate that allow flying for money: the airline transport pilot (ATP) certificate, and the commercial certificate. An ATP has more privileges than a commercial pilot.

(There is also the private pilot certificate, which only allows the pilot to fly private aircraft, and he/she can't get paid for doing it.)

If your character is flying an airliner, I think he would have to be an ATP in order to be the pilot in command (i.e., captain). (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.)
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Yes I think I communicated it weird. I fly the equivalent of a united, south west, etc. in the movie. I used commercial airline, but perhaps I was confused. It's written as such, so I'll go ask the writer now actually because maybe it is my poor interpretation.
 
NotoriACE said:
I am picking up fast from you guys. I was clueless what FBO was, when the first couple of people mentioned it! LOL! I WILL have to google TED STRYKER though...don't shoot me..down ;)

Good idea, forgot about Van Nuys!
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Airplane! IMDB is your friend.

And if you hang around Van Nuys, look for the guys/girls wearing white shirts w/ epaulets, looking bored out of their minds. Start up a conversation, ask about anything & everything. $1.35 at some point they'll invite you to tour the jet.

Take the intro flight (and even a lesson or two if the budget allows) and at some point, you can probably get the instructor (CFI - Certified Flight Instructor) to walk over to the nearest jet and ask for a tour.

Also, ask the CFI to arrange a tour of the FAA tower. It's always interesting to see things from the other side.
 
NotoriACE said:
LOL, I guess maybe I should mention we have a brunette, DEAF Leper in the film?

Thanks for the insight. Even though small, I'd like to be as considerate as it's allowed within the film. I'm so picky about details, and maybe it's just me getting into the thick of the role early, but I want to honor you guys.
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Problem these days is that leprosy is easily managed & cured with the right drugs.
 
Gubbins said:
Off topic with apologies, but did anyone here ever see "Altitude"? Terrible stuff for a real pilot to watch, but nevertheless entertaining to the masses I am sure.
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And what about "2012"? Show me a twin that can do that....!
 
NotoriACE said:
I'm not at ALL trying to bust anyone's chops, but I was even more confused, because apparently Ted Stryker is a Disc Jockey! Now...I figured out there was a little spelling error on the name...I must say, considering the references in this circle, I was surprised to see this simple error ;)

I think I'm going to watch AIRPLANE tonight and bust out my pad and pen for notes :yikes:
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I fear you're a bit too young to appreciate all the jokes in the film. Some are references, some are the actors. Fortunately it's a funny film even without realizing all the jokes.

Gadzooks, I feel old.

And, of course, Airplane 2 has the ultimate Star Trek jokes until "Galaxy Quest" came along.
 
NotoriACE said:
I'm heading back into the Colombian Consulate now to pick up my work visa, but wanted to ask two questions and see your feedback!

I'll start with Adam Z's suggested question:

Why do you fly?
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On an hourly basis, about the same price as a really good shrink, but it's a lot more fun!
Second:

If a commercial pilot has his wallet/passport STOLEN in Colombia (or maybe any country outside of the US) during an overnight stop, what would happen? Procedures to follow? Would they be able to get through airport to fly back next day? Any thoughts here would be great!
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Head immediately to the US consulate. A phone call to the FAA can result in an immediate fax/email of a temporary flight certificate. Don't know if the Consulate can issue a passport/other ID.
 
NotoriACE said:
Ohh!! Then I perhaps could have been more clear. I fly for a big airline, imagine like a United, or the like.
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In which case you contact the home office, and they worry about the details. Of course when you get home, you may not have a job...
 
NotoriACE said:
Yes I think I communicated it weird. I fly the equivalent of a united, south west, etc. in the movie. I used commercial airline, but perhaps I was confused. It's written as such, so I'll go ask the writer now actually because maybe it is my poor interpretation.
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[snide mode on]
Do you really think the writer knows the difference?
[snide mode off]
 
NotoriACE said:
Yes I think I communicated it weird. I fly the equivalent of a united, south west, etc. in the movie. I used commercial airline, but perhaps I was confused. It's written as such, so I'll go ask the writer now actually because maybe it is my poor interpretation.
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I don't see anything incorrect in referring to a major airline as a commercial airline. The terminology that applies to airlines is not the same as the terminology that applies to the pilots who fly them.

As for the exact nomenclature of the pilot certificate your character has, on the scale of errors that one sees in movies that involve flying, this one is very small potatoes. I think we're just trying to give you accurate answers to your questions.

Is your character the captain or the first officer (co-pilot), or is that even specified?
 
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