Flight Following "Pro Tips"

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Oh lord...

This is so awful I just had to share.


Pro tip: Read the AIM before recording your Pro Tip videos.

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"Can I get a beacon code?"....really works?
This guy is teaching nonstandard everything......
 
I made it through 1:58 of that before I just couldn't listen anymore.
 
bbchien said:
"Can I get a beacon code?"....really works?
This guy is teaching nonstandard everything......
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Just another way to get, "Aircraft calling for flight following, unable."

This video is completely full of nonsense...incorrect information. It really frustrates me when something so simple is taught blatantly wrong. I turned it off after 60 seconds. The video's author was also the 2010 National CFI of the year.
 
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When will the AIM catch up with how it's supposed to be done?

I'll start asking for beacon codes next time from New York Center.

Oh -- wait.. first I need electricity, then a transponder, then climb above 8k or so to talk to CENTER...


 
HPNPilot1200 said:
This video is completely full of nonsense...incorrect information. It really frustrates me when something so simple is taught blatantly wrong. I turned it off after 60 seconds. The video's author was also the 2010 National CFI of the year.
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Then how can he be wrong? Doesn't acquiring a CFI certificate bestow upon the recipient complete knowledge of all things aeronautical?
 
Careful Steven, you are treading on sacred ground on this site. Many here including some of the instructors themselves think a cape and tights are issued with the instructor certificate. (See previous threads on instructors) Just slowly back away, keep your eyes averted away, do not make any noise and you should be fine.

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So making up your own phraseology makes you seem like you know what you're doing to controllers? That's an 'interesting' perspective.

Disliked.
 
ronnieh said:
Careful Steven, you are treading on sacred ground on this site. Many here including some of the instructors themselves think a cape and tights are issued with the instructor certificate. (See previous threads on instructors) Just slowly back away, keep your eyes averted away, do not make any noise and you should be fine.
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What's wrong with a cape? I got mine at Sportys...

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Absolutely nothing. I think they look dashing on instructors. I had mine dry cleaned and put in storage about 15 years ago. Looks like new. :D
 
ronnieh said:
Careful Steven, you are treading on sacred ground on this site. Many here including some of the instructors themselves think a cape and tights are issued with the instructor certificate. (See previous threads on instructors) Just slowly back away, keep your eyes averted away, do not make any noise and you should be fine.

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No capes!
 

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bbchien said:
"Can I get a beacon code?"....really works?
This guy is teaching nonstandard everything......
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In 2,500 hours of flying, in all of the lower 48 save 2 states, I have never used or heard of the term "beacon code".

I have used flight following for the immediate area, but rather than say "no hand off to center requested" I say "local radar service until clear your airspace". Seems to work fine. :dunno:
 
Yeah, that was about the exact wrong way to ask for flight following, and screams "I don't know what I'm doing."

Although the Bonanza was worse.
 
I quit after beacon code. I did post a comment. Hope he reads some. Bad enough to do it but advertise it........
 
ejensen said:
I quit after beacon code. I did post a comment. Hope he reads some. Bad enough to do it but advertise it........
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Blatant thread hijack alert...

Hey! Eric's alive! Hi Eric! ;) I miss seeing your bird on the ramp! Where ya been?
 
denverpilot said:
Blatant thread hijack alert...

Hey! Eric's alive! Hi Eric! ;) I miss seeing your bird on the ramp! Where ya been?
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Thanks for asking. I've been around but seem to miss the lunches etc. More commercial flying than the Jabiru. Hope to change that some. But the wife retired the end of the year so she has plans for places beyond GA range.

Went to the Colorado Pilots fly-in planning session Saturday. 16 or so events if they all come off. One is a Fort Collins beer tour, probably a drive in rather than fly but some folks may stay over.

Eric
 
Oh, he's a CFI, so he must know what he's doing. My thanks to the OP for posting this informative video. I'll have to look up some more from him. Golly, I'll have to use that whenever I need radar advisories.
 
ajstoner21 said:
Where at? I couldn't see it. Did he reply?
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No, just a link to his FB page which gets regular updates and appears to be Marketing for continued Instruction services.

I wish him no ill will in his endeavors, I just find the videos hokey, somewhat inaccurate, and definitely not up to "CFI Of The Year" status.

Kinda reflects more poorly on whoever bestowed that title than on him, really.

I'd rather see a Gold Seal than that.
 
I've heard ATC many times say "standby for a beacon code" or "stay on that beacon code and call the tower". So I'm pretty sure it's universally understood. But for student training? No, stick with the standard, accepted phraseology.
 
"Beacon code" is mentioned several times in the AIM. For example, here's an excerpt from 3-2-4c3:

"Pilots of arriving aircraft should contact the Class C airspace ATC facility on the publicized frequency and give their position, altitude, radar beacon code, destination, and request Class C service."​
 
Granted while I'll typically ask for a squawk, I accept 'beacon code' as more proper phraseology for a transponder code.
 
HPNPilot1200 said:
This video is completely full of nonsense...incorrect information. It really frustrates me when something so simple is taught blatantly wrong. I turned it off after 60 seconds. The video's author was also the 2010 National CFI of the year.
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Yeah, and I'd love to know how he managed to get that. Who chooses the CFI of the year?

And that reminds me. Mossy owes me a burger - He lost a bet he made over something he said on Twitter. See Attachment - Last line was the blatantly incorrect info... Note also the top 3 posts.
 

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