Physician Acknowledged Misdiagnosis

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fp.eddie

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Hi All,

BLUF: Overprescribed medication, Psychiatrist prescribed medication to diagnose and ween off meds from previous doc, was told I don't have psych condition but ICD codes say otherwise. If the same doc writes a note and amends, what are the odds of a denial, or an SI?

I'm currently seeking to obtain my third class and basic med.

I was seeing a psychiatrist to treat symptoms as a result of being over prescribed adderall, when I didn't need it.

My psychiatrist explained he was not giving me a diagnosis, but was using a drug cocktail to see mood response and a tool in a diagnostic process. I continually asked if I had any condition, doing my due diligence for the day I seek my medical. He always said I was "emotional, maturing, and the adderall was not appropriate". At my last session in 11/21, he said the records reflect no diagnosis.

Years later I pulled my records to bring to an AME. The diagnosis header info is blank but under ICD there are codes that showing: BPII, and Unspecified mood.

Finding this is soul crushing, because I was always under the impression I never had these. I haven't used any medication for two years with zero episodes of any kind, graduated college, perform exceptionally well at work and in my social life.

My question is this: Do I need to add those conditions into the "diagnosis" box in MedXpress, and what are the odds of a SI If the same psychiatrist adds a note, an explanation for the ICD codes (my guess medication justification), and amends the medical records.

I'm gauging if I'm screwed and go sport, or pursue the real ticket.
 
Is BPII bipolar? If it is, I would simply cut my losses and go sport pilot (which, by the way, is a "real ticket").

If you're only interested in flying recreationally, sport pilot may realistically cover all the types of flying you will do anyway. You're only able to carry one passenger at a time, fly smaller planes, fly only during the day, and have some limitations as to locations you can fly to, but you will get many, many fun flight hours out of the costs and time that it would take to get a 3rd class, if it's even possible, and the planes are fun and capable.
 
:yeahthat:


Why not try Sport Pilot first? If down the road you decide you need Private, then roll the FAA medical dice. All your Sport Pilot training will count toward Private.

Sport will let you fly anywhere in the US and the Bahamas, daytime VFR, with one passenger. There are only a small handful of class Bravo airports that are off limits. You may very well find it’s completely satisfactory.
 
I live in the midwest, it would be nice to fly at night and then later go for my instrument.

Yes BPII is Bipolar II.
 
Sport Pilot!

It took me ten years and 4 sets of P&Ps (psychiatry and neuropscyhology evals, costing totally about $23,000 on his part) to get a second class issued, and the SI is very very tough and demanding. He hung in there and has the prize but OMG.

And your doc has just discredited himself. No reason exists, as to whay they should believe him.
 
Some will tell you that ICD codes rule your life. But Medxpress doesn't ask what your doctor told the insurance company, it asks what conditions you had or were diagnosed with. What do the doctor's notes say about a diagnosis? And what diagnosis led to the Adderall prescription in the first place?
 
Lindberg said:
Some will tell you that ICD codes rule your life. But Medxpress doesn't ask what your doctor told the insurance company, it asks what conditions you had or were diagnosed with. What do the doctor's notes say about a diagnosis? And what diagnosis led to the Adderall prescription in the first place?
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I saw a social worker while my parents were going through a divorce, I told him my grades were slipping. Of course, I was entering my sophomore year in engineering! He told me to see my PCP and try ADHD meds. My PCP prescribed with no hesitation or testing. So to answer your question: ADHD I guess. That was my foot into the rabbit hole...
 
bbchien said:
Sport Pilot!

It took me ten years and 4 sets of P&Ps (psychiatry and neuropscyhology evals, costing totally about $23,000 on his part) to get a second class issued, and the SI is very very tough and demanding. He hung in there and has the prize but OMG.

And your doc has just discredited himself. No reason exists, as to whay they should believe him.
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Geeze ok.

Thanks for your help, Doc! Do you have any advise on how to seek appointments moving forward, to maybe paint a favorable image to the FAA in the future?

I'd hate to be disqualified for life simply because of this nonsense... two years of no medication, stability, and statement from the "diagnosing" doc--I'm glad the FAA considers all of that (sarcastic tone).

On another note, is there any talk of medical reform relating to this stuff--or even removing third-class for private pilot anyway?
 
fp.eddie said:
I saw a social worker while my parents were going through a divorce, I told him my grades were slipping. Of course, I was entering my sophomore year in engineering! He told me to see my PCP and try ADHD meds. My PCP prescribed with no hesitation or testing. So to answer your question: ADHD I guess. That was my foot into the rabbit hole...
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So you'll have to disclose the ADHD, which will come with a bunch of hoops to jump through.
 
fp.eddie said:
He told me to see my PCP and try ADHD meds....
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No medical expertise on my part, but :rolleyes: (directed at the social worker and the PCP, not you).

It makes me think that medical school curricula need to include education on potential career consequences for the patient of experimenting with prescriptions for certain substances.
 
I would like to know about any roomers about scratching the tier three are there any mood stabilizer approved for sports pilot I’m in a similar situation where adderal effected me in middle school and later in life pot did the same thing and was miss diagnosed I’ve been clean for over a year now and my dr is taking me off meds and putting me on an ssri
If possible can I take lumictal and be a sports pilot. He says my condition is controlled enough as to not interfere with light sport operations
 
Legally, if you hold a driver’s license and have never had an FAA medical denied or revoked, you can fly as a Sport Pilot. No medical approval from the FAA required.

Whether it’s wise to do so is another question. Legal doesn’t necessarily mean safe.
 
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