Rant - Organic Peanut Butter

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Haven't seen a good rant post in a long time. So here is one. Not as high quality as a good ol' fashioned Sac Rant Post, but still...

Organic Peanut Butter... WTF, right?

Taste - Excellent.
Ease of use - Holy mother of god herself what the actual hell with this stuff? It comes like epoxy in two completely separate forms that must be combined to get anything actually spreadable. Which I am pretty sure is only accomplished with some sort of industrial mixer.

How. In. The. Hell. Does anyone mix this stuff up to a consistency that is either not a.) just that oily layer on top or b.) that concrete-like layer of actual peanuts on the bottom????

W
T
F
 
GeorgeC said:
Simply Jif
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Have had it. It's pretty good. And most certainly spreadable. But not the same in terms of taste as the 'real' organic stuff. Like the kind you get from Whole Food$ where they grind up the peanuts into the butter and then it immediately separates into oil and concrete... but tastes sooooo good.... if I could just get it mixed.
 
It sounds to me like you have a demulsification and sedimentation issue. What was the pull date?
 
Deelee said:
How. In. The. Hell. Does anyone mix this stuff up to a consistency that is either not a.) just that oily layer on top or b.) that concrete-like layer of actual peanuts on the bottom????

W
T
F
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Power tools.
 
Take a dowel or butter knife, and not only stir but plunge up and down while you’re stirring. Almost 2:1 ratio of plunge vs stir. Give your forearms a work out. Takes about five minutes
 
Even the fake fruit baskets in model homes are usually organic. Unless they are made of ceramic.
 
go to one of those hippy places where you pay 5x's as much for the same thing, a lot of them have nut grinders (teeheehee) to make your own nut butter (teeheehee)
 
Don't get me wrong - I do like regular peanut butter. We go through it by the case in this house. But I also like the taste of the 'organic' stuff.....

Plunge and stir... I like it.... I need to work on my forearm muscles a bit more. Need those veins to be poppin'
 
I've grown to like Vegemite. It's god awful similar consistency which categorically eliminates plastic spreading utensils is endearing.
 
eman1200 said:
go to one of those hippy places where you pay 5x's as much for the same thing, a lot of them have nut grinders (teeheehee) to make your own nut butter (teeheehee)
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You don't make your own nut butter? I'm astonished. You should try it sometime.
 
Something that might help is storing the peanut butter jar upside down.
 
There are actually two issues, separation, and mixing after separation. I keep mine in the refrigerator, which prevents separation, and when I want to spread it, I take the metal lid off and warm the peanut butter in the microwave for fifteen or twenty seconds.
 
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Palmpilot said:
There are actually two issues, separation, and mixing after separation. I keep mine in the refrigerator, which prevents separation, and when I want to spread it, I take the metal lid off and warm it in the microwave for fifteen or twenty seconds.
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Why would you microwave a metal lid?!?
 
GaryM said:
I can't think of a single exception. Table salt is a mineral, water is, uh, water. Anything with caloric content from which the body can extract energy has to contain carbon.
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I'm 99.9999% sure that's the case too, but I said almost because of the pedants on here. Someone would be like "Oh, [food we've never heard of] isn't organic, it's made with zinc and nitrogen you idiot."
 
We’ve tried organic peanut butter as well as almond butter and maybe one other I can’t recall. Plus the Members Mark or Kirkland or whatever.

Jif wins every time. The others are OK for cookies and shakes, but not PBJs and ice cream.
 
I used to have that organic argument with my (at the time) vegetarian wife... She would ask me to get organic this or that from the store and I'd say, "Isn't all food organic??"

Problem is now the dictionaries seem to have added new entries for the word organic. And now Merriam-Webster even has the food-related definition of organic as its number one entry -
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/organic

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/organic

Pfft. What's up with the world today. I blame the internet and video games.
 
Deelee said:
I used to have that organic argument with my (at the time) vegetarian wife... She would ask me to get organic this or that from the store and I'd say, "Isn't all food organic??"

Problem is now the dictionaries seem to have added new entries for the word organic. And now Merriam-Webster even has the food-related definition of organic as its number one entry -
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/organic

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/organic

Pfft. What's up with the world today. I blame the internet and video games.
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I just make up a new definition of a word I want to hijack and start using that when someone says "they changed the definition of blah blah blah". Oh so we can just start making up our own definitions when convenient? They tend to relent.
 
EdFred said:
I just make up a new definition of a word I want to hijack and start using that when someone says "they changed the definition of blah blah blah". Oh so we can just start making up our own definitions when convenient? They tend to relent.
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Literally.
 
Deelee said:
Where is that even sold here in the USA? Once you get used to the incredibly bad taste, it is pretty good.
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Places like World Market carry it, but you can also buy in on the Zon. I used to bring a jar or two back with me when I would go to Australia.
 
EdFred said:
Fun fact, almost all food is organic.
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Depends on which definition you're using.

organic
adjective

[/URL]or·gan·ic | \ ȯr-ˈga-nik

Definition of organic
(Entry 1 of 2)

1a(1) : of, relating to, yielding, or involving the use of food produced with the use of feed or fertilizer of plant or animal origin without employment of chemically formulated fertilizers, growth stimulants, antibiotics, or pesticides
//organic farming
//organic produce
(2) : of, relating to, or derived from living organisms
//organic evolution
b(1) : relating to, being, or dealt with by a branch of chemistry concerned with the carbon compounds of living beings and most other carbon compounds
//studied organic chemistry in college
(2) : of, relating to, or containing carbon compounds
//organic solvents
2a : having systematic coordination of parts : organized
//an organic whole
b : forming an integral element of a whole : fundamental
//incidental music rather than organic parts of the action
— Francis Fergusson
c : having the characteristics of an organism : developing in the manner of a living plant or animal
//society is organic
//many new coinages … stem from the normal organic structure of the language
— William Chomsky
3a : of, relating to, or arising in a bodily organ
b : affecting the structure of the organism
//an organic disease
4 : of, relating to, or constituting the law by which a government or organization exists
//their nation has written the separation of church and state into its organic law
— Paul Blanshard
5 archaic : instrumental​

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/organic
 
Palmpilot said:
Depends on which definition you're using.

organic
adjective

[/URL]or·gan·ic | \ ȯr-ˈga-nik

Definition of organic
(Entry 1 of 2)

1a(1) : of, relating to, yielding, or involving the use of food produced with the use of feed or fertilizer of plant or animal origin without employment of chemically formulated fertilizers, growth stimulants, antibiotics, or pesticides
//organic farming
//organic produce
(2) : of, relating to, or derived from living organisms
//organic evolution
b(1) : relating to, being, or dealt with by a branch of chemistry concerned with the carbon compounds of living beings and most other carbon compounds
//studied organic chemistry in college
(2) : of, relating to, or containing carbon compounds
//organic solvents
2a : having systematic coordination of parts : organized
//an organic whole
b : forming an integral element of a whole : fundamental
//incidental music rather than organic parts of the action
— Francis Fergusson
c : having the characteristics of an organism : developing in the manner of a living plant or animal
//society is organic
//many new coinages … stem from the normal organic structure of the language
— William Chomsky
3a : of, relating to, or arising in a bodily organ
b : affecting the structure of the organism
//an organic disease
4 : of, relating to, or constituting the law by which a government or organization exists
//their nation has written the separation of church and state into its organic law
— Paul Blanshard
5 archaic : instrumental​

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/organic
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See post 30.

I also don't have an irrational fear of certain people because I won't date them.
 
Palmpilot said:
Depends on which definition you're using.
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Organic chemist here. We must reject these johnny-come-lately made-up definitions, created by Whole Foods and the like as a marketing ploy to justify their higher prices.

Organic means carbon-based. The chemistry of life.
 
GaryM said:
Organic chemist here. We must reject these johnny-come-lately made-up definitions, created by Whole Foods and the like as a marketing ploy to justify their higher prices.

Organic means carbon-based. The chemistry of life.
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Technically all chemists are organic. :D
 
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