Was having this discussion with someone the other day and we seemed to have different understandings on this .
Is it required to meet or exceed the listed climb gradient(s) listed under tge nonstandard Takeoff Minimums when departing a runway and electing to fly it’s published Textual ODP?
...OR...
Do these climb gradients only apply if electing to NOT fly the textual ODP and when wanting to make a turn directly on course at the standard 400’ AGL instead (meaning this non standard climb requirement will ensure obstacle clearance in all directions) ?
Put another way, are ODPs created as an option if you CANT make those steeper climbs (and are made to satisfy the standard 200’/NM), or are those steep climbs actually a requirement to fly to the ODP in the first place? The photo shows the airport in question, however it really applies to anywhere.
Often you’ll SIDs with minimum requirements right on the plate making it pretty obvious. With these textual ODPs the information is sort of separated (especially in FAA documents which have the T/O mins and DPs in different paragraphs).
I have my opinion/idea on this (which is to assume these minimums should be adhered to, better safe than sorry right?) but i was surprised to hear this other persons point of view on this.
Thanks!
Is it required to meet or exceed the listed climb gradient(s) listed under tge nonstandard Takeoff Minimums when departing a runway and electing to fly it’s published Textual ODP?
...OR...
Do these climb gradients only apply if electing to NOT fly the textual ODP and when wanting to make a turn directly on course at the standard 400’ AGL instead (meaning this non standard climb requirement will ensure obstacle clearance in all directions) ?
Put another way, are ODPs created as an option if you CANT make those steeper climbs (and are made to satisfy the standard 200’/NM), or are those steep climbs actually a requirement to fly to the ODP in the first place? The photo shows the airport in question, however it really applies to anywhere.
Often you’ll SIDs with minimum requirements right on the plate making it pretty obvious. With these textual ODPs the information is sort of separated (especially in FAA documents which have the T/O mins and DPs in different paragraphs).
I have my opinion/idea on this (which is to assume these minimums should be adhered to, better safe than sorry right?) but i was surprised to hear this other persons point of view on this.
Thanks!