Premier 1 driver reported to FAA by "pilot"

So, 150+ posts to this thread.

Let's get to it.

how many of you jerks think a kid should never be a professional pilot because of his internet/youtube/keyboard antics while the youtubeheros are bullet proof gods not to be reported for their desire (always denied) to drive clicks and $$ to their channel.

Hmm... Hard choice, right?

Play on.
 
Uh oh, if you tell me on downwind to look for an airplane on a 5 mile final, don't expect me to turn in front of him. I'm fine with you telling me "turn base now", but man, if I don't see him I'm not turning.

So you've never been in a traffic pattern when the controllers tell you "base approved, you're inside [traffic] on a 5 mile final?
 
So, 150+ posts to this thread.

Let's get to it.

how many of you jerks think a kid should never be a professional pilot because of his internet/youtube/keyboard antics while the youtubeheros are bullet proof gods not to be reported for their desire (always denied) to drive clicks and $$ to their channel.

Hmm... Hard choice, right?

Play on.


That question is along the same lines as: Do you still beat your wife?
 
So you've never been in a traffic pattern when the controllers tell you "base approved, you're inside [traffic] on a 5 mile final?

Yes, and I'll turn immediately, but you tell me to look for traffic on a 5 mile final without that instruction, I won't, which is what I thought you meant.
 
So, 150+ posts to this thread.

Let's get to it.

how many of you jerks think a kid should never be a professional pilot because of his internet/youtube/keyboard antics while the youtubeheros are bullet proof gods not to be reported for their desire (always denied) to drive clicks and $$ to their channel.

Hmm... Hard choice, right?

Play on.

Pretty sure this guy doesn't monetize his videos.
 
Yes, and I'll turn immediately, but you tell me to look for traffic on a 5 mile final without that instruction, I won't, which is what I thought you meant.

This is what I said:

I trust you to turn base inside traffic on 5 mile final not continue on downwind telling me you can't see it and screw up my pattern.

I never told you to "look" for anything.
 
Pretty sure this guy doesn't monetize his videos.

None of the youtubeheros do. Just ask them.

[Choke, cough, spit]

It's all about the love of sharing..... **** I can't even type the crap anymore.

If for no other reason, he can use the proceeds to pay for the script about how he doesn't care about the money, right?
 
So, 150+ posts to this thread.

Let's get to it.

how many of you jerks think a kid should never be a professional pilot because of his internet/youtube/keyboard antics while the youtubeheros are bullet proof gods not to be reported for their desire (always denied) to drive clicks and $$ to their channel.

Hmm... Hard choice, right?

Play on.

The YouTube heroes are not my heroes, but I selectively enjoy some of their vids, on rare occasion.
I could throw the switch for the kid's electric chair, be sure I did it right, and go out for a glass of wine afterwards.

Yeah. I said that. Y'all drive a bus lately?
 
So, 150+ posts to this thread.

Let's get to it.

how many of you jerks think a kid should never be a professional pilot because of his internet/youtube/keyboard antics while the youtubeheros are bullet proof gods not to be reported for their desire (always denied) to drive clicks and $$ to their channel.

Hmm... Hard choice, right?

Play on.

Interesting: this thread involving a guy making zero infractions has165 posts. The thread about the dip**** busting the Vegas Bravo only has 156. Very telling.....

I personally don’t have a problem with Micaiaiahahaaiha being a pilot as long as he’s proficient and doesn’t endanger others lives while being one. But he won’t be making many friends if he keeps running to the FAA crying foul on fellow aviators.
 
None of the youtubeheros do. Just ask them.

[Choke, cough, spit]

It's all about the love of sharing..... **** I can't even type the crap anymore.

If for no other reason, he can use the proceeds to pay for the script about how he doesn't care about the money, right?

I have youtube premium, I don't see ads. So I don't know, if a youtuber doesn't monetize do you still see ads?? I mean you non-premium folk.

It is plausible that he doesn't need the money, the guy flies his own jet, but what do I know?
 
"I have a concern about something I saw in a video. It goes against everything I've been taught and when I asked the pilot responsible for the video to explain I got back a dismissive, condescending and a little bit offensive response.

Pffft. There was nothing condescending about his reply to the kid. It was a cogent and informative response. Get a grip.
 
I'm in one of his videos. If you look up the one where he lands in Tucson, right before he parks, you can see my open hangar and my truck in his video.
Should we check to see if you are violating any regulations that we can report?
 
I have youtube premium, I don't see ads. So I don't know, if a youtuber doesn't monetize do you still see ads?? I mean you non-premium folk.
It is plausible that he doesn't need the money, the guy flies his own jet, but what do I know?

You're really an odd sort.

Do you not know that clicks drive revenue, even when the "clicker" doesn't have to watch the ads?

How do you think YT decides how many ads to place? Clicks from the paid "ignores" already are in the formula, since you've paid them.

But hey, there's plenty of youtubeheros on PoA that can describe the process, if they were to choose to do so, which they wont.
 
Well hell, now I feel bad. I didn't mean it as a rant. Suffice it to say there is frustration on both sides of the radio.

Lol, I'm good, sometimes intent is lost in these posts and I didn't want to sound like I was busting your balls although I suppose that did come across a little passive aggressive. Friggin internet.
 
You're really an odd sort.

Do you not know that clicks drive revenue, even when the "clicker" doesn't have to watch the ads?

How do you think YT decides how many ads to place? Clicks from the paid "ignores" already are in the formula, since you've paid them.

But hey, there's plenty of youtubeheros on PoA that can describe the process, if they were to choose to do so, which they wont.

Between this and your criticism of the $30K Cherokee video, you come off as an infantile whiner. Maybe you shouldn't watch YouTube videos.
 
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You're really an odd sort.

Do you not know that clicks drive revenue, even when the "clicker" doesn't have to watch the ads?

How do you think YT decides how many ads to place? Clicks from the paid "ignores" already are in the formula, since you've paid them.

But hey, there's plenty of youtubeheros on PoA that can describe the process, if they were to choose to do so, which they wont.

What's odd about what I said? In order to make money a youtuber has to monetize his channel, if it's not monetized he doesn't make any money. He's said before he doesn't monetize his channel, you seem to know different, please share.
 
He's said before he doesn't monetize his channel, you seem to know different, please share.

Every one of them swears they don't. And it being the internet and all, it must be true, hey? And in this case Greg says in this video he doesn't NEED the money, not that he doesn't accept the money.

Between this and your criticism of the $30K Cherokee video, you come of as an infantile whiner. Maybe you shouldn't watch YouTube videos.

Thanks for your insightful comment. <- THAT is sarcastic if you didn't know.
 
Every one of them swears they don't. And it being the internet and all, it must be true, hey? And in this case Greg says in this video he doesn't NEED the money, not that he doesn't accept the money.



Thanks for your insightful comment. <- THAT is sarcastic if you didn't know.

That's this video, he's said it on other videos, that he doesn't monetize. Maybe he's a liar, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But that's me.
 
That's this video, he's said it on other videos, that he doesn't monetize. Maybe he's a liar, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But that's me.

Golly jees... just because he doesn't say Like, Subscribe, and Share in every single video, like the others do, doesn't mean he isn't ACTUALLY taking the money.

And BTW, he's by no means the primary YTH here. I don't know if he even has an account here. At least his videos are posted by someone else.

The others come only to puke their clickbait. And yes, @3393RP - I'm talking about a $30k Cherokee Six
 
Whether he makes a couple YT bux or not, I’d like a checking account like his. Fly my own jet around for work. Pretty badazz.
 
There is a point at which tattling/ratting/reporting/snitching is acceptable: when someone is injured, financially or physically. Otherwise, don't be a [I got banned for posting a 'work-around' to a certain word, but there are plenty that are appropriate; fill in your own.]
Richard?
 
Sorry but no. Either P1D is incredibly naive and just plain stupid or he knew what he was doing when he made that video. Doxing has been in the media enough that you'd have to be living under a rock to claim you didn't know what was going to happen and no regular youtube content creator with followers can make such a claim. He willfully lit that match and threw it on the box of fuses leading to the dynamite; he doesnt get any sympathy from me just because he was upset. It was a serious lack of judgement and unprofessional behavior on his part.

As someone else said, this video is that email you type up, walk away from, then return to and hit delete. P1D chose to hit send but worse he chose to hit send after having time to gather his thoughts about what he was going to say, say it while filming the video and then review it while editing the video and presumably going through a final review all before uploading the video. He still hit send.

Frankly P1D comes across as the bigger crybaby here. Nothing came of the call to the FAA except notification of a complaint. Thats it. His threat to pull his videos from youtube? That's a 3 year old's response to not wanting to share their toys and taking them and going home... They're my toys/video, I dont have to share if I dont want to and if you dont like that well that's too bad because they're mine and I'm taking them home with me.

As to the kid being a crybaby? We dont know how that conversation went. What we know is he went to the FAA which we all agree was a major and unnecessary escalation but it is also the escalation we are told we should follow. This is probably even more so true now than it was in the past as the FAA's whole educate and comply regime has seen newer instructors, especially in 141 schoosl, starting to cast the FAA as a "friend" to pilots and not an "adversary." I think the change is good but there is still enough nonsense coming from the FAA on things like medicals and other issues that I'm not quite ready to go full on "lets be friends" myself but I'm also not in the "anything involving the FAA is bad" camp either. As someone else said on here, most of you have never had to deal with the FAA directly and it shows and again the kid lacks experience and judgement to know what he doesnt know, which in this case was, ask others first, dont involve the FAA except as a last resort.

As to an apology? I think both need to apologize to each other, P1D more so than the kid. The kid's only guilty of unnecessarily escalating a minor issue, in which he was technically correct about, into one involving the FAA but nothing came of it. P1D on the other hand has been in my opinion condescending and dismissive of the kid from the start with a holier than thou attitude and is now directly responsible for the kid being doxed and harassed.

I am just not sure where do go with this. I would guess that you are from New Jersey but that would insult those from New Jersey. So I am going to guess that you are president of a HOA or condo association. I also think that you are jealous that P1D flies million dollar jets And that people like him.
 
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I am just not sure where do go with this. I would guess that you are from New Jersey but that would insult those from New Jersey. So I am going to guess that you are president of a HOA or condo association.

What was the point of this post? I mean if you didn't know where to go with my post, I'm surely not going to be able to point you in any sort of direction if you dont know why you're responding.

Also, not from NJ or president of an HOA or condo association but thanks for playing.
 
What was the point of this post? I mean if you didn't know where to go with my post, I'm surely not going to be able to point you in any sort of direction if you dont know why you're responding.

Also, not from NJ or president of an HOA or condo association but thanks for playing.
Who said there had to be a point to a post.
 
to me it's a case between a long time aviation enthusiast, an adult who contributes to the aviation community with meaningful, well edited content that a lot of people are interested in and can learn from and are entertained by, who did something so trivial and inconsequential that outside of the training world is simply a non-factor, vs some entitled attention seeking neo maxi zoom dweebie who contributes nothing. open and shut case in my book. looks like the FAA felt the same way.

as for P1D's follow up video, I totally understand and back him up on it. he got to do what we here on PoA don't have the luxury of doing, pleading your case. when u get banned for something so inconsequential, you don't even have an opportunity to plead your case and u definitely can't follow up on it with a discussion about what happened. but he's in the real world where you do have that right and good on him for venting, which is really what he was doing. it's so frustrating dealing with some of these snowflakes, it's maddening.

I absolutely cold not AGREE with you more!
 
None of the youtubeheros do. Just ask them.

[Choke, cough, spit]

It's all about the love of sharing..... **** I can't even type the crap anymore.

If for no other reason, he can use the proceeds to pay for the script about how he doesn't care about the money, right?

Have to agree, most of these guys on YouTube are more about look at me, look what I do. A sense of vanity like selfie whores.
 
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You can hit the opening of a bottle.?? I am impressed..!!

From how far away.??

Oh I dunno. A hundred? But then of course I have to be above the bottle and I can't guarantee all content to be contained by said bottle.
 
Sorry, but this makes no sense. You like Flightchops but you’re annoyed by his YT success? Why? You’re annoyed because the guy put the time and effort into something and it paid off? You’re annoyed by him doing new & unique things. So it’d be better if he just posted vids of him flying the pattern in a 172?? You’re annoyed by P1D’s “attitude and ego” but you don’t watch his vids. So you’re basing all this on what exactly?

I’m annoyed by splitting hairs, minutia and nonsensical hypotheticals a la “what if the guy had a stroke...”. Really dude???

There are a hundred other hypotheticals that could happen in the span of 5 seconds; you call it splitting hairs and nonsensical but most of the regs are written to try and address as many of those hypotheticals as they possibly can or are based on hypotheticals that have become reality. I mean having a fuel reserve is a good safety measure and a requirement under the regulations but is it not built on the hypothetical (proven factual many many times) that you might be delayed and might exhaust fuel? After all, we dont REALLY need a reg to tell us having fuel is a good idea, do we? Yet enough pilots have exceeded that hypothetical for it to warrant its own regulation about how much extra fuel to have on board (and even then people have exceeded that hypothetical too).

And yes, flightchops activities can be mildly annoying, as in irritating, miffed, displeasing or peeved. I've been watching him since early on in his youtube career so I can be and am happy for him and his success but still be miffed about the opportunities that it opened up for him. Yes that's my jealousy talking but it is still an annoyance/irritation. I begrudgingly accept the activities he's able to take part in as a direct result of his success. Honestly though I kind of liked him more when he was just a guy with a camera making video debriefs for himself; it was easier to picture myself in his shoes. SwayneMartin is another one, especially in his early videos, where he's had opportunities not available to many. Some of those videos are among my favorite youtube flying videos; doesnt mean I dont sometimes watch them and think "I hate him."

As to P1D, I stated that I hadn't seen him before. That doesnt mean I haven't watched a handful of his videos. Unfortunately, despite my efforts not to let his comments and 13 minute diatribe in which he was condescending and openly denigrating of a junior/aspiring pilot and named names to his followers, I'm finding it hard to find videos where I dont get a sense from him of a being above the rest of us. So right now, I'm basing my opinion of him on the handful of videos I have watched which sadly started with a rather large negative. Perhaps that is negatively influencing my judgement of him overall so I'll try again in a few days and see if my opinion has changed any but I find the whole situation distasteful.
 
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