So, uhh... wow? (pilot in class Bravo without clearance, McCarran)

Supposedly VASaviation has the first call. This guy was a numb nuts.


 
1NR, proceed direct <insert appropriate fix>, hold as depicted, expect further clearance 55 minutes.
 
Yeah she was much too nice. I would have given this guy vectors to exit the bravo.
 
Looking at his FlightAware, he's been in and out of HND before. But it also looks like he's based in a SoCal delta, surrounded by deltas and Charlies. Probably always got "Cleared into the Bravo" going before (although he may not have much experience). And also looks like he always goes VFR on the autopilot.

So my guess is he's not instrument rated (or if he is, he's not good or proficient at it at all) and falls under the "More money than brains" stereotype of a guy who only knows how to push buttons on the autopilot.

Hopefully the FAA is not lenient...
 
That was about as bad as an exchange I heard in RIC airspace where an instructor and student bumbled into the class C and into IMC without a clearance. The chilling words were "Do you know how close you came to hitting another aircraft?"
 
hindsight2020 said:
I ain't even mad. That was some solid gamesmanship. Exit the bravo. "nope". Copy number when ready. "not ready, still flying". This stuff is solid gold. :D
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I did chuckle a little when he said that, aviate, navigate, communicate. Although I think he blew the navigate part.
 
Ted DuPuis said:
Looking at his FlightAware, he's been in and out of HND before. But it also looks like he's based in a SoCal delta, surrounded by deltas and Charlies. Probably always got "Cleared into the Bravo" going before (although he may not have much experience). And also looks like he always goes VFR on the autopilot.

So my guess is he's not instrument rated (or if he is, he's not good or proficient at it at all) and falls under the "More money than brains" stereotype of a guy who only knows how to push buttons on the autopilot.

Hopefully the FAA is not lenient...
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According to an earlier post he is IR. Man he flys the Centurion all over VFR. Had it been a IFR flight the Bravo clearance would have been automagic. I'm guessing he's not IR current or the plane isn't IR current. Or he doesn't want to have to repeat back a clearance LOL - imagine that going off the rails :)
 
Sinistar said:
According to an earlier post he is IR. Man he flys the Centurion all over VFR. Had it been a IFR flight the Bravo clearance would have been automagic. I'm guessing he's not IR current or the plane isn't IR current. Or he doesn't want to have to repeat back a clearance LOL - imagine that going off the rails :)
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Why would either of those things stop him if lack of a bravo clearance doesn’t. You could get away with those two, not so much busting the bravo like that.
 
Salty said:
Why would either of those things stop him if lack of a bravo clearance doesn’t. You could get away with those two, not so much busting the bravo like that.
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True that, especially given his attitude.
 
Maybe the plane is haunted, or possessed? Perhaps an exorcism is in order?
 
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After the original post I was in the camp that it had to be fake. Now that I know it’s for real I’m dumbfounded. They need to aggressively find him and aggressively see that he never acts as pilot of any aircraft ever again. Not only is he stupid and disrespectful, he’s just a major jerk.
 
flyingron said:
That was about as bad as an exchange I heard in RIC airspace...
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I've heard a lot worse in Rockford, IL. But there, unfortunately, it was typically the controllers. I used to fly through their airspace twice a week going back and forth to Wisconsin and I've never experienced controllers abusing pilots like they did. I finally got to where I would fly around their airspace so I wouldn't have to listen to the a-holes.

Can't complain about the controllers anywhere else I've ever been. All the rest have been great! I definitely haven't been everywhere, but I've been a lot of places.
 
:lol: a gear up landing because he was ****ing with the a/c

While on left base of the traffic pattern at SUS, the pilot was instructed by air traffic control to make a short approach for traffic avoidance. The pilot stated that he lowered the landing gear handle, but was unsure if the landing gear down indicator light had illuminated. He normally checked the landing gear visually, but did not remember doing so on the approach of the accident. He did not observe an audible landing gear warning horn during the approach. The pilot stated that he was distracted with testing his air conditioner and thought he noticed an odd smell in the cockpit, which he thought may have been the air conditioner malfunctioning. The airplane touched down on the runway surface with the landing gear retracted, resulting in substantial damage to the fuselage structure and engine.
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:crazy:
 
What a terrible aviator. I have flown into the Vegas area, both IFR and VFR, landed at McCarran at least a half dozen times even in my lowly Cherokee....the controllers for that area are incredible and have treated me equally to the Southwest jets going in and out of there, even during a VPOTUS TFR. They don't deserve that attitude in any way.
 
benyflyguy said:
Wonder if it’s the same jabroney. Way the report reads certainly possible
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According to the FAA registration lookup, the plane was owned by someone else then. It registered to the current owner in 2018.

Be interesting to keep an occasional eye on flightaware for this tail number to see when/if the plane flies again. If the FAA has taken quick action, I’m guessing we won’t see any flights for quite a while.
 
midlifeflyer said:
You know that's a Malibu, right?
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Not according to the earlier posts and subject video, the asshat was flying a C210, TL;DR entire thread though...not that’s important as I was joking.
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This was him being mephitic!

Sierra_Hotel said:
:lol: a gear up landing because he was ****ing with the a/c

While on left base of the traffic pattern at SUS, the pilot was instructed by air traffic control to make a short approach for traffic avoidance. The pilot stated that he lowered the landing gear handle, but was unsure if the landing gear down indicator light had illuminated. He normally checked the landing gear visually, but did not remember doing so on the approach of the accident. He did not observe an audible landing gear warning horn during the approach. The pilot stated that he was distracted with testing his air conditioner and thought he noticed an odd smell in the cockpit, which he thought may have been the air conditioner malfunctioning. The airplane touched down on the runway surface with the landing gear retracted, resulting in substantial damage to the fuselage structure and engine.
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MooneyDriver78 said:
Not according to the earlier posts and subject video, the asshat was flying a C210, TL;DR entire thread though...not that’s important as I was joking.
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I meant the airplane in the video you commented and referred to as a nice Mooney pilot.
 
Ted DuPuis said:
Looking at his FlightAware, he's been in and out of HND before. But it also looks like he's based in a SoCal delta, surrounded by deltas and Charlies. Probably always got "Cleared into the Bravo" going before (although he may not have much experience). And also looks like he always goes VFR on the autopilot.

So my guess is he's not instrument rated (or if he is, he's not good or proficient at it at all) and falls under the "More money than brains" stereotype of a guy who only knows how to push buttons on the autopilot.

Hopefully the FAA is not lenient...
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If it is the guy whose name is behind the LLC which owns the airplane, he is a commercial pilot with single, multi, and instrument ratings. Last medical was a Class 2 issued in 2018.
 
Sinistar said:
So it's in a LLC. How does the FSDO figure out who the actual pilot is for the action?

Edit: just saw previous post. He did take the number
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Not too difficult even if he doesn't call. See my post to Ted just above. It's a starting point.
 
ja_user said:
Let's be honest. He bought a 210... This should have got him a bravo clearance anywhere he wanted to go... ;)
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That only happens if you buy a Cirrus...

<yeah I know, dumb joke> :D
 
midlifeflyer said:
If it is the guy whose name is behind the LLC which owns the airplane, he is a commercial pilot with single, multi, and instrument ratings. Last medical was a Class 2 issued in 2018.
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That's pretty shocking. Even more reason to throw the book at him...
 
Looks like he departed KHND for Zamperini Field in Ca on June 21.
 
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