I'm too old to push my 182

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I keep my 182 in a large open hanger. My spot is way in the back and with full fuel (80 gal) I struggle pushing and pulling that PIG! I'm looking at electric tugs, I’ve read a bit on line about a few different brands. Does anyone have any experience with AircraftCaddy 4K Jr? or any other 12V tug? I guy at the airport has one of those drill motor deals but it’s pretty slow. I push my plane about 40 - 50 yards. Thanks for any information or advice!
 
I've never used one but I hear good things about the Tow Bot. You can just stand with the remote control and let it do its thing.
 
A client of mine has one of these remote control treaded tugs.

http://acairtechnology.com/

His is for a cabin-class twin (and therefore it probably the medium sized one), but I will say that having used it several times, it is by far the easiest method of tug I've ever used. One main reason is you don't have to worry about exceeding the nosewheel steering limits since the platform the nosewheel is on swivels. You can "zero turn radius" the airplane if you want.

They are pricey though. But oh so easy. And fun!

EDIT - I just looked and not all of the models may have that "lazy susan" feature.
 
I have the PowerTow, electric rechargeable 12V battery. They also have a gas version. All I need is about 20 ft uphill into the hangar. Been using it for 20 years....best investment I ever made. Of coures 20 yrs ago it was much cheaper! You may be able to find a used one.

powertow.com
 
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I have the PowerTow, electric rechargeable 12V battery. They also have a gas version. All I need is about 20 ft uphill into the hangar. Been using it for 20 years....best investment I ever made. Of coures 20 yrs ago it was much cheaper! You may be able to find a used one.

powertow.com
Does this work with the wheel pants on?
 
Does this work with the wheel pants on?
Yup...head to the website...depending on the aircraft, there's attachments for wheel pants. Or, you can invent one of your own if you have some spare heavy duty tubing and welder. Previous owner of my cherokee invented one because at the time (30-40 yrs ago) not all FBOs had widgets to tow every airplane around. I've got the photo around here someplace if you're interested.
 
Not sure but I caught one here and looked pretty simple to operate. 5min mark

 
I've seen them towed with golf carts and similar. Would that make sense? A small used cart is probably more useful than a dedicated tow device and could be had in a similar price range.
 
I have a winch in my hangar, but I usually just push mine in by hand. Mine is 2330lbs with full fuel, so I could see it being tough for someone older.
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I've seen them towed with golf carts and similar. Would that make sense? A small used cart is probably more useful than a dedicated tow device and could be had in a similar price range.
For pulling it out and around for fuel etc..yes!

For pushing it anywhere...no...unless you are farmer who's backing up hay wagons since you were 12 :)

I've been thinking of making a rigid attachment for the back of the lawn tractor. Use the lower rear hitch and tow bar to pull it out (as normal). And use this new attachment to pull it back in by the tail tie down ring.

That last part about the tiedown ring can potentially result in 3,297 posts about how it shouldn't be used that way, or how it should, or how the friggin plane is designed. However our previous owner pulled in the fully fueled 182 via a winch for 20yrs so I'm guessing the 182 tiedown ring is pretty well designed and strong enough.
 
I have a winch in my hangar, but I usually just push mine in by hand.
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Fully fueled I can just barely push in our 182 into the old hangar. The new hangar I needed assistance...a bit too much incline up into the hangar :(
 
Fully fueled I can just barely push in our 182 into the old hangar. The new hangar I needed assistance...a bit too much incline up into the hangar :(
Yea, I have the 92 gallon tanks. She gets heavy! I pull mine from the 200ft from the pump to my hangar as a workout
 
I keep my 182 in a large open hanger. My spot is way in the back and with full fuel (80 gal) I struggle pushing and pulling that PIG! I'm looking at electric tugs, I’ve read a bit on line about a few different brands. Does anyone have any experience with AircraftCaddy 4K Jr? or any other 12V tug? I guy at the airport has one of those drill motor deals but it’s pretty slow. I push my plane about 40 - 50 yards. Thanks for any information or advice!
Look at the Best Tugs Alpha. https://www.besttugs.com/pages/a-3-info
 
In the last couple of years, I've been having this problem when I rent a 182 (which I'm going to be doing later today). It's not too bad if the pavement is smooth and exactly level, but otherwise it takes a maximum effort. I'm always grateful when someone offers to help, and I have started offering to help when I walk past someone else who is ready for push-back.
 
I keep my 182 in a large open hanger. My spot is way in the back and with full fuel (80 gal) I struggle pushing and pulling that PIG! I'm looking at electric tugs, I’ve read a bit on line about a few different brands. Does anyone have any experience with AircraftCaddy 4K Jr? or any other 12V tug? I guy at the airport has one of those drill motor deals but it’s pretty slow. I push my plane about 40 - 50 yards. Thanks for any information or advice!


https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/aircraft-tug.116404/#post-2672695

https://i.imgur.com/PrNM8dg.mp4
 
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I have the Best Tugs and it is awesome. Mine is a 172. But it moves it with little to no effort. We had a starter problem upon returning (thankfully) and we use the tug to get from the gas pump back to our hangar with no problem (about 300+ yards). It is expensive. But it is a one time purchase. The older I get, the more I understand buying once vs three times - or buying once and wishing you had gone a different direction.
JC
 
For what these cost, a good used lawn tractor would likely be a lot cheaper
 
For what these cost, a good used lawn tractor would likely be a lot cheaper
Cheaper yes. But you'll regret it when you have to push any distance with it. We bought a used $300 JD all wheel steer tractor. Awesome for pulling and snow removal. Complete suckage for pushing a plane. Whenever we have to push the plane we use an old gas powered PowerTow. 1000x easier. But the tractor is great for pulling the plane about 800ft over to the pumps or wash area, etc.
 
Does it use a standard 12v car battery for power?
Built in Lithium Ion and comes with a charger. I've used it many times in the past 2 weeks and haven't needed to charge it. It has a digital battery status indicator on the handle.

It has high and low range. Incredible torque. In high speed you have to jog to keep up. Auto brake when you let off the trigger.
 
Its kind of hard to tell from the video - can this be used to push a plane. And not like just 5 ft straight back but over a longer distance and with turns?

Anyone can pull a plane its pushing over a distance that is the challenge.

Define long distance. 500 feet? No problem. It will go farther but I haven't tried to find where the limit is.

I have towed a 177 from the O to the X and back.

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I guy at the airport has one of those drill motor deals but it’s pretty slow. I push my plane about 40 - 50 yards. Thanks for any information or advice!
I absolutely love my sidewinder by Redline. It isn't fast, but it pushes as fast as I would want to. Especially if you are pushing it around other planes. They are a little pricey but that is because of the demand. You can occasionally find a used one for sale, but they are gone in minutes. I really mean it; MINUTES.

http://redlineaviation.com/sidewinder-for-cessna/

I think it would be perfect for you. My wife bought me mine when I started complaining that I was too old to push the Bonanza around and I love it.
 
I modify 4 or 5 small, ride-on mowers with trailer hitches, front and back for pulling/pushing planes around.
You can always find them with the mower deck ruined, cheap.
 
I modify 4 or 5 small, ride-on mowers with trailer hitches, front and back for pulling/pushing planes around.
You can always find them with the mower deck ruined, cheap.
I saw a post about a snapper riding mower and 5,000 ft of copper wire for sale; cheap. Must purchase together.
Purchaser is responsible for removing wire from mower.

That would be perfect.
 
Define long distance. 500 feet? No problem. It will go farther but I haven't tried to find where the limit is.

I have towed a 177 from the O to the X and back.

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Its not the towing...its the pushing. Anything can tow with the only issue being running out of gas or battery. Try instead to push it that same distance in your picture. Since it's a haywagon like scenario people often get about 10...20ft and get so crossed up they just give up.

Do you use your tug to push the Cardinal in? Is it just a relatively short straight push or a longer one like the OP requires?

I know some people have good luck using snowblowers. They directly attach the dolly to the snowblower (DO NOT use the ball/hitch) and this removes the hay wagon problem.

With any of these modern tugs you could pull or push a plane with ease for the distance you specified. Lawn tractor...pull...easy. Push...I give you 30ft tops and you'll be more crossed up than a 20kt crosswind landing :)
 
Anyone know the price of the BestTug A3?
Same here, is there a price list out there. I would give Mike and Mark some of my money. God knows the make awesome stuff :)
 
I modify 4 or 5 small, ride-on mowers with trailer hitches, front and back for pulling/pushing planes around.
You can always find them with the mower deck ruined, cheap.
That sounds like fun..
 
Its not the towing...its the pushing. Anything can tow with the only issue being running out of gas or battery. Try instead to push it that same distance in your picture. Since it's a haywagon like scenario people often get about 10...20ft and get so crossed up they just give up.

Do you use your tug to push the Cardinal in? Is it just a relatively short straight push or a longer one like the OP requires?

I know some people have good luck using snowblowers. They directly attach the dolly to the snowblower (DO NOT use the ball/hitch) and this removes the hay wagon problem.

With any of these modern tugs you could pull or push a plane with ease for the distance you specified. Lawn tractor...pull...easy. Push...I give you 30ft tops and you'll be more crossed up than a 20kt crosswind landing :)

I can pull it from the X to the O and back or push it. Its easy to control. And yes, does fine with a 182 holding 79 gallons of gas.
 
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I can pull it from the X to the O and back or push it. Its easy to control. And yes, does fine with a 182 holding 79 gallons of gas.
I figured it would have no issue with the weight, pretty much anything geared right (like yours!) will be able to do that.

I think from your pictures I am seeing that your ball mount is almost directly over your front wheel. And because you have a single front wheel its easier to do larger pushing turns than on a system like a tractor where the it can't spin as easily...I hope I have that right? Thanks for clarifying. A standard lawn tractor does not work. I have seen cases where the front tires of a lawn tractor are removed and the tow bar is rigidly attached to the frame and then they just use the rear wheels. That and a snowblower are more similar to yours I think!
 
I saw a post about a snapper riding mower and 5,000 ft of copper wire for sale; cheap. Must purchase together.
Purchaser is responsible for removing wire from mower.

That would be perfect.

That much copper could pay for the tractor. :)
 
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