Who's Fault

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For the virus,, lab rat got loose ? or eating a bad bat?

Who started it all ?
 
Didn’t come from a rat. Didn’t come from eating a bat. It came from operating a level 4 bio-lab as a level 2 facility. There were no horseshoe bats within 600 miles of Wuhan when the Coronavirus got loose in that city. No politics, just facts.
 
Crashnburn said:
Didn’t come from a rat. Didn’t come from eating a bat. It came from operating a level 4 bio-lab as a level 2 facility. There were no horseshoe bats within 600 miles of Wuhan when the Coronavirus got loose in that city. No politics, just facts.
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Oddly, early reports were that it did NOT come from a rat or a bat to humans. I don't know why the bat thing became so pervasive. In any case, it's loose.
 
Crashnburn said:
Didn’t come from a rat. Didn’t come from eating a bat.
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If not rat and not bat, how 'bout cat?
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I'm betting on a run away lab rat got the whole thing started.
 
Getonit said:
Sounds like a lot of smart people talk......didn’t know what 75% of the words are......me go fly airplane
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Here was the relevant sentence, at the end of the 2nd paragraph: "Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus."
 
I read an article that the lab had had problems before, there was a doctor who became infected with a virus he was working with twice. I believe the protocol was to stay in a facility in the lab until he got better. The question would be, since this virus apparently sheds before you feel the symptoms, did some one get infected and pass it along unwittingly before they realized they were sick.
 
If I was still married I am pretty sure my now ex-wife somehow would have convinced me that this is somehow my fault
 
luvflyin said:
‘Who is’ fits the question. Who’s is just a contraction of ‘who is.’ Whose would be correct if the question was who does the virus belong to, not who caused it.
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If the thread title was "Who's at fault," I would agree with you. "Who is fault" doesn't make any sense.
 
luvflyin said:
‘Who is’ fits the question. Who’s is just a contraction of ‘who is.’ Whose would be correct if the question was who does the virus belong to, not who caused it.
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Palmpilot said:
If the thread title was "Who's at fault," I would agree with you. "Who is fault" doesn't make any sense.
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Gotcha. I was just getting ready to delete the post but to late. ‘Fault’ is something you can possess.
 
WannFly said:
If I was still married I am pretty sure my now ex-wife somehow would have convinced me that this is somehow my fault
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Getting divorced doesn't get you immunity from that.
It just means it now goes on at a considerable "social distance", so you are less likely to be infected by it.
 
GRG55 said:
Getting divorced doesn't get you immunity from that.
It just means it now goes on at a considerable "social distance", so you are less likely to be infected by it.
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One of my more witty Facebook friends says that he prefers "antisocial distancing."
 
Crashnburn said:
Didn’t come from a rat. Didn’t come from eating a bat. It came from operating a level 4 bio-lab as a level 2 facility. There were no horseshoe bats within 600 miles of Wuhan when the Coronavirus got loose in that city. No politics, just facts.
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Read that Nature article and see if you understand any of the genetic science. it presents you with two options:

1 - If you do understand high level genetics, then it will give you some information to report back to us based on the information presented as to why they are wrong.

2 - If you don’t understand the genetics, then you don’t have enough authority to say where the virus came from based on the available (biases both ways) news information.
 
Matthew Rogers said:
Read that Nature article and see if you understand any of the genetic science. it presents you with two options:

1 - If you do understand high level genetics, then it will give you some information to report back to us based on the information presented as to why they are wrong.

2 - If you don’t understand the genetics, then you don’t have enough authority to say where the virus came from based on the available (biases both ways) news information.
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If @Crashnburn & I are on the same page, we're not saying the lab strategically crafted a killer virus, rather, they were studying naturally occurring viruses and didn't have the level of precautions necessary to contain them.

I think that is the most likely scenario, although with China I wouldn't be surprised by anything. Scientists seem convinced it's naturally occurring, and I dont question that, but whether it was released intentionally or accidentally, the blame lies squarely at China's feet.

And the WHO failed miserably by not being skeptical of China, so the thread title "WHO's fault" is unintentionally perfect.
 
Jim K said:
If @Crashnburn & I are on the same page, we're not saying the lab strategically crafted a killer virus, rather, they were studying naturally occurring viruses and didn't have the level of precautions necessary to contain them.

I think that is the most likely scenario, although with China I wouldn't be surprised by anything. Scientists seem convinced it's naturally occurring, and I dont question that, but whether it was released intentionally or accidentally, the blame lies squarely at China's feet...
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Sounds plausible.
 
The crux of their argument was the sequence of the protein that binds human cells was not optimal from a bioinformatics point of view, so if the virus were created artificially they'd not have gone that way. Instead it appears to solve the problem of attaching to human cells in an unexpected way. It is unlikely to have achieved this by passage in tissue culture cells (what is claimed for the laboratory) because other viruses failed to undergo such transformations unless cultured in vivo in an animal.
 
Crashnburn said:
Didn’t come from a rat. Didn’t come from eating a bat. It came from operating a level 4 bio-lab as a level 2 facility. There were no horseshoe bats within 600 miles of Wuhan when the Coronavirus got loose in that city. No politics, just facts.
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Fauxcts from Faux News by chance?
 
GRG55 said:
Getting divorced doesn't get you immunity from that.
It just means it now goes on at a considerable "social distance", so you are less likely to be infected by it.
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Not talking about getting infected, talking about who’s fault ‘rona is
 
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