A real "Hold my beer" NTSB report...

Curious why there was no (recorded) interview of the 3 passengers who sustained “serious injuries”
 
"Two empty beer cans were found in the front left floorboard area near the rudder pedals. A rodent's nest was found inside the left wing near an area that had been impact damaged. A significant amount of cobwebs were observed in the engine compartment........ A large mud dauber nest was found on the fins of the oil cooler. The ELT was found in place with battery acid residue on the outside of the case. An automotive battery was installed in the airplane.....The gascolator fuel strainer was disassembled and organic debris similar to insect cocoons was found inside the strainer screen"

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A real "Run whatcha Brung" pilot, eh?

I figure that guy for more of a test pilot though.....
 
Toxicology testing performed by the FAA Forensic Sciences Laboratory identified ethanol in


subclavian blood, vitreous fluid, and urine (0.154 gm/dL, 0.177 gm/dL, and 0.194 gm/dL

respectively); and 0.0033 μg/mL of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) in the blood. THC's

active metabolite, 11-hydroxy-delta-9-THC, was not detected, but the inactive metabolite,

carboxy-delta-9-THC, was detected at 0.0139 μg/mL. Both THC metabolites were detected in

urine; 11-hydroxy-delta-9-THC at 0.0094 μg/mL and carboxy-delta-9-THC at 0.0346 μg/mL.


Darwin award nominee?
 
An "8000 hour commercial pilot (really?)", no annual on the aircraft since purchased in 2012.

No record of a personal log book and no aircraft, engine or prop log books.

"Don't need no stinkin' gov'mt telling whats I can and canst do! If'n I feel like a beer when I'm flying, that's my own dang bidness!".

Sad for the injured people who trusted this genius.
 
Wow. Just wow. Etoh...THC... then you get to the plane!! Not sure who was in worse shape.
 
It’s the ole chain of events in the accident chain. That was one helluva chain!


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Just remember folks, for every one like this one we hear about, there are a whole bunch more that don't make the news.
 
You should look at the photos in the docket.
 
"Two empty beer cans were found in the front left floorboard area near the rudder pedals. A rodent's nest was found inside the left wing near an area that had been impact damaged. A significant amount of cobwebs were observed in the engine compartment........ A large mud dauber nest was found on the fins of the oil cooler. The ELT was found in place with battery acid residue on the outside of the case. An automotive battery was installed in the airplane.....The gascolator fuel strainer was disassembled and organic debris similar to insect cocoons was found inside the strainer screen"

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And the report continued....

“A complete medical examination of the pilot was conducted. One notable finding was the apparent lack of a brain when the skull was examined. Only upon performing a colonoscopy was it located. Whether this was its location prior to the accident or a result of the accident is undetermined at this time. However investigators are favoring the theory that it was a pre-accident condition and was a contributory factor if not the root cause. The investigation continues.”
 
It was a Keystone. It's in the photographic evidence posted in the second link.
Look closer. That can says Keystone Light. That's the kind of beer you bring when you help someone else brand their cattle or put up hay, and they bring it back to you when they come over to help you with branding or haying. Eventually, teenagers will steal it and drink it around a bonfire, throwing the empties into the fire. This is the first can of Keystone Light I've ever seen that was opened up and not burned.
 
Why would you let your kid in your that plane? Look at it, even if you have no aviation knowledge that plane looks poorly maintained.
 
"Two empty beer cans were found in the front left floorboard area near the rudder pedals. A rodent's nest was found inside the left wing near an area that had been impact damaged. A significant amount of cobwebs were observed in the engine compartment........ A large mud dauber nest was found on the fins of the oil cooler. The ELT was found in place with battery acid residue on the outside of the case. An automotive battery was installed in the airplane.....The gascolator fuel strainer was disassembled and organic debris similar to insect cocoons was found inside the strainer screen"

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I thought this was a sarcastic post.....until I read the NTSB report.
 
Looks like another practiced drunk.

I have seen practiced drunks behave in almost total control living ordinary daily lives and get away with it unless something like this happens. It takes a very keen eye to even notice they are drunk. The victims involved with this accident probably didn't even know he was drunk.
 
Looks like another practiced drunk.

I have seen practiced drunks behave in almost total control living ordinary daily lives and get away with it unless something like this happens. It takes a very keen eye to even notice they are drunk. The victims involved with this accident probably didn't even know he was drunk.

I need more practice.
 
Looks like another practiced drunk.

I have seen practiced drunks behave in almost total control living ordinary daily lives and get away with it unless something like this happens. It takes a very keen eye to even notice they are drunk. The victims involved with this accident probably didn't even know he was drunk.

It’s people like him that put the non-alcoholics through pure HIMS hell earning their tickets back. FAA has to assume everyone is as practiced as this azzhat. And it’s hard to blame them for it. Alcoholics are amazingly sneaky.

My brother in law who killed himself finally got a DUI not long before that with a fifth of Fireba sitting in the passenger seat. The liquor store receipts we found were, shall we say, impressive... in a very bad way.

Still miss him. Wish our society maybe wasn’t quite so easy to get gallons of central nervous system depressant at every store. But, whatever... not going to change that. Prohibition didn’t work, and never will.

Perhaps a tiny red flag in some computer somewhere when you’ve run up hundreds of dollars of alcohol per month for years ... and didn’t pay off the bills... sigh.
 
Perhaps a tiny red flag in some computer somewhere when you’ve run up hundreds of dollars of alcohol per month for years ... and didn’t pay off the bills... sigh.

Sure, let's just create a requirement for all alcohol sellers to file "suspicious activity reports" for anything they deem "non-routine" to include structured purchases or party-sized purchases. Would let cops stop parties before they start or sit outside and watch for offenders.

Or maybe "alcohol user IDs" requiring a background check, classes & training, and a visit to the local police office to file the paperwork. Could even require a background check with each purchase and a waiting period before one can take possession of said alcohol.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
In PA, the groceries require scanning ID for beer purchases. So the data collection is coming.
 
In PA, the groceries require scanning ID for beer purchases. So the data collection is coming.
Wegman's does that here. I don't buy beer/wine there as a result (they can't even tell you what they do with the data.... Or how they protect it against theft). Plenty of other places to get said product.

Last time in PA Whole Foods didn't do that nonsense.
 
Wegman's does that here. I don't buy beer/wine there as a result (they can't even tell you what they do with the data.... Or how they protect it against theft). Plenty of other places to get said product.

Last time in PA Whole Foods didn't do that nonsense.
Wegmans in MA scans your ID. Per the store manager, they do not keep the data. Instead they have links to a large number of states and do ID verification that the license is valid.
Not sure this will make it better...

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Sure, let's just create a requirement for all alcohol sellers to file "suspicious activity reports" for anything they deem "non-routine" to include structured purchases or party-sized purchases. Would let cops stop parties before they start or sit outside and watch for offenders.

Or maybe "alcohol user IDs" requiring a background check, classes & training, and a visit to the local police office to file the paperwork. Could even require a background check with each purchase and a waiting period before one can take possession of said alcohol.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I did think of that as I was posting it.

Just sad. Those bills were very large and he was keeping it all to himself.

Sucks, but that’s always going to be how some personality types roll. Sigh.
 
Sure, let's just create a requirement for all alcohol sellers to file "suspicious activity reports" for anything they deem "non-routine" to include structured purchases or party-sized purchases. Would let cops stop parties before they start or sit outside and watch for offenders.

Or maybe "alcohol user IDs" requiring a background check, classes & training, and a visit to the local police office to file the paperwork. Could even require a background check with each purchase and a waiting period before one can take possession of said alcohol.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Sounds good to me. Something has to be done to protect innocent citizens.

Last time I went through a sobriety check point, the young officer asked me (I am pretty sure he wasn't old enough to buy alcohol) if I had been drinking in the last hour. I replied, ''No sir, have you,??'' He said ''thank you have a good day'', and turned to walk away. I said, ''Excuse me, you didn't answer my question.'' He came back and said, ''No, I haven't". I smiled and said, ''That is really good to hear, thank you.''
 
Wegmans in MA scans your ID. Per the store manager, they do not keep the data. Instead they have links to a large number of states and do ID verification that the license is valid.
Not sure this will make it better...

Tim

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Ask the store manager for a written document about that. Won't get one. Ask them how the secure the data during transmission. They can't tell you. They blindly follow company policy, which is more about liability protection than customer protection.

The stores here print the data (or they did in the past) on the receipt. If they're doing that they're storing it.

I would make a bet that the data is stored somehow for a period of time in case something happens and the company lawyers need to defend them.

That, the access to state data, and a credit card number are all one needs to do identity theft.
 
The stores here print the data (or they did in the past) on the receipt. If they're doing that they're storing it.

I would make a bet that the data is stored somehow for a period of time in case something happens and the company lawyers need to defend them.

That, the access to state data, and a credit card number are all one needs to do identity theft.

Could be...who woulda thought Target was saving your credit card number and personal information every time you swiped your card at the cash register. And if they were doing it I'm sure others were as well, just so happens they were the ones that got hacked.
 
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