Aerovonics just released the AV30E

[Unit74]

https://aerovonics.com/av-30

The certified version shouldn't be too far behind. Where you at Skies 2 Mtns? Keep a sharp eye out.

 

[WannFly]

That’s a awesome price for the list of features. Only I think I don’t buy is the probe less AOA. Not sure how they measuring that angle without a physical probe.

 

[Unit74]

That’s a awesome price for the list of features. Only I think I don’t buy is the probe less AOA. Not sure how they measuring that angle without a physical probe.

Yea, the only doughnuts I want come from Winchell's ...... I suspect it is a really good guess at what the AoA is, but I don't buy the problems AoA at all. Don't care who makes it... Especially Boeing!

 

[wheaties]

That’s a awesome price for the list of features. Only I think I don’t buy is the probe less AOA. Not sure how they measuring that angle without a physical probe.

Just remember, most gear aimed at non-certified aircraft is 1/3rd the price of similar gear in certified configuration.

 

[Challenged]

These are some cool units.

 

[Eric Lehto]

That’s a awesome price for the list of features. Only I think I don’t buy is the probe less AOA. Not sure how they measuring that angle without a physical probe.

Aspen claims to do it. I'd suspect an algorithm involving attitude, pitot-airspeed, gps-groundspeed.

 

[Mtns2Skies]

Oh I like it!

 

[WannFly]

Aspen claims to do it. I'd suspect an algorithm involving attitude, pitot-airspeed, gps-groundspeed.

I have issues when AOA is computer from airspeed, but I am full of issues and no one cares... so there is that

 

[asicer]

I have issues when AOA is computer from airspeed, but I am full of issues and no one cares... so there is that

They determine pitch angle with the AHRS, then determine flight path angle from IAS/VS and then adjust for G-load. The example they give is that if the pitch angle is 10 degrees and the flight path is 7 degrees then the AoA is effectively 3 degrees positive.

https://aerovonics.com/av-20-product-faq

 

[Eric Stoltz]

I am on the waiting list for 2 of them, version C.

 

[Eric S]

Just went on the list for 2 as well looks like a nice alternative to a dual G5 setup.

 

[Unit74]

Hopefully they come through with the GPSS promise..... That would be a G5 killer to me.

 

[hindsight2020]

Sincerely impressed by these offerings. Glad to hear of something other than G5 potato for once.

 

[BrianNC]

Just remember, most gear aimed at non-certified aircraft is 1/3rd the price of similar gear in certified configuration.

Showing them both as the same price in their basic configuration unless I'm reading it wrong.

PRICE:

• AV-30-E, MSRP $1,595
• AV-30-C, MSRP $1,595
• APA-10, MSRP $799

E stands for experimental and C for certified.

 

[IK04]

I still have a deposit on a certified -C version...

 

[nauga]

They determine pitch angle with the AHRS, then determine flight path angle from IAS/VS and then adjust for G-load. The example they give is that if the pitch angle is 10 degrees and the flight path is 7 degrees then the AoA is effectively 3 degrees positive.

So 'probeless' depends on the Pitot probe and static port and all kinds of assumptions. I like the display, but I'd find a better source of AOA if I were going to use it.

Nauga,
on-speed

 

[BGF_Yankee]

Whoa...UPDATE!

"The philosophy for the AV-30 (when configured as a DG) is to replace the vacuum driven DG with an electrical equivalent. It was not initially intended to replace an HSI, which is an integral part of a flight control system and has multiple interface requirements.

The AV-30, when installed as a stand-alone display, will not interface to the autopilot.

However, based on feedback, we have designed the APA-10 Autopilot Adapter to address the wide variety of autopilots found in legacy aircraft. The APA-10 will provide roll, pitch, heading datum, course datum and flight director to/from the autopilot.

We have also incorporated dual ARINC receivers, which will allow the AV-30 to communicate to a digital radio (Garmin 4XX/5XX Series, or compatible). This will allow full traditional HSI functionality down the road.

Autopilot integration will be provided after the initial stand-alone certification effort."

Seriously considering pulling the trigger on a deposit to reserve two slots here. Question now is whether or not my aircraft will be on the AML...

 

[Unit74]

If it will be a legal back up for Aspens, G3X, etc, I think it has a lot to gain.

 

[MBDiagMan]

When used in a non autopilot plane, is it an acceptable substitute for the attitude indicator?

 

[Chip Sylverne]

Now they're talkin...Here's hoping the KCS55A ystem holds out until it's all certified.

 

[Unit74]

When used in a non autopilot plane, is it an acceptable substitute for the attitude indicator?

Once it is certified, yes.