What's that sound?

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Sorry if this has been posted before (I did a search and didn't see it), but how in the heck do you have something like this happen?

 
Socata?

Everything and anything can be a distraction. Possibly having a back seat passenger photographing the thing, caused the thing.

The gear warning horn could not have been louder or more in your face! Jeez. Beautiful airport and valley, great place to bury an engine.


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That looked like a steep approach. Maybe he just had to get it down and was distracted (fuel, deadline, gastric issues)? Noise canceling headset? Too much low & slow flying prior and just got immune to the tone?
 
That video has made the rounds before. I believe the backstory was that there was an problem with the landing gear and the pilot was forced to land gear up. I have no idea if that information is accurate.
 
I know in flying the schools twinkie the gear horn comes on sometimes at 18inches so if your decending sometimes you just tune it out. After 10 seconds or so you really dont notice it unless your paying attn.
 
That looked like a steep approach. Maybe he just had to get it down and was distracted (fuel, deadline, gastric issues)? Noise canceling headset? Too much low & slow flying prior and just got immune to the tone?

It did but I think it was an illusion caused by the slope.


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My Lance gear warning sounds at 15”. You cannot miss it, nor the biggest red flashing light in the panel right in front of you. If you disregard those, you deserve to gear up.
 
That video has made the rounds before. I believe the backstory was that there was an problem with the landing gear and the pilot was forced to land gear up. I have no idea if that information is accurate.

Well they certainly didn't behave like the gear up landing was a surprise, so I'd think you're probably correct they had a gear problem.
 
My Lance gear warning sounds at 15”. You cannot miss it, nor the biggest red flashing light in the panel right in front of you. If you disregard those, you deserve to gear up.

It is possible with a stiff wind to have to carry enough power in our T Tail lance, that the horn will never go off until flare. It would take a stiff breeze and a long straight in, and of course whatever distraction.
 
That video has made the rounds before. I believe the backstory was that there was an problem with the landing gear and the pilot was forced to land gear up. I have no idea if that information is accurate.

they looked pretty surprised for a couple of guys who were doing a "forced" gear up landing....
 
That looked like a steep approach. Maybe he just had to get it down and was distracted (fuel, deadline, gastric issues)? Noise canceling headset? Too much low & slow flying prior and just got immune to the tone?

Dropping the gear would have helped with loosing altitude
 
That sound was very annoying to me but maybe this needs to be the gear up sound for those guys:

 
I'm still amazed that cockpit warnings aren't piped into the audio panel on all aircraft especially these days with everyone wearing headsets and many being noise cancelling. Warnings over cockpit speakers should be considered obsolete or at least secondary source.
 
I know in flying the schools twinkie the gear horn comes on sometimes at 18inches so if your decending sometimes you just tune it out. After 10 seconds or so you really dont notice it unless your paying attn.
I have zero time in a Twinkie, so it may be way different than my 310. In the 310 I thin the horn comes on around 15 (bottom of the green). If atc leaves you high, it is tempting to pull power below the green to lose altitude, but I never want to make hearing a gear horn part of normal operations. I get some flaps out and if I need more drag I put the gear out early. I never drop below the green till short final. Works for me.
 
I'm still amazed that cockpit warnings aren't piped into the audio panel on all aircraft especially these days with everyone wearing headsets and many being noise cancelling. Warnings over cockpit speakers should be considered obsolete or at least secondary source.
I believe they are through the audio panel nowdays this video looks pretty old. Hell I didn't even install a speaker with my panel upgrade.
 
If they had advanced the throttle a bit, that beeping would stop.

Frankly, contrary to the hypothesis. My ANR headphones make it EASIER rather than harder to hear the gear horn and other sounds other than the drone of the prop/engine.
Years ago, I was hearing a clanging noise. I pulled the headsets away from my ear to get a better listen and couldn't hear it. With the headphones on it was definitely there. Upon landing, we found that the exhaust hinge had broken and the lower end of the pipe was just dangling from the hanger. Couldn't hear it without the ANR.
 
That's some displaced threshold. Takes up half the runway.
 
That's some displaced threshold. Takes up half the runway.

IAD had 5000' of displaced threshold on the (then) 1L a while ago. It was kind of eerie flying over a mile of pavement before landing. They were trenching utilities across to the new 1L at the time.

02C (Capitol Airport in Wisconsin) has a 1400' displaced threshold on a 3000' runway. When I asked about it the locals were kind of bitter. Apparently, there's nothing wrong about the first 1400' other than some obstruction the FAA was in a twist about (probably this: 76 ft. tree, 200 ft. from runway, 125 ft. left of centerline RY 03 APCH RATIO 21:1 AT DSPLCD THLD). Not sure why, since there is no instrument approaches involved.
 
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