Runway

[Owen Becker]

Situation: 5,000-foot runway, an aircraft is taxing on 25R 2,000 feet away to the threshold of 7L (meaning 3,000-foot separation between the threshold of 25R and the taxing aircraft). I'm on short final runway 25R.

Would it be legal to land considering I'm capable of having my ground roll less than 3,000 feet?

Possible 91.13?

 

[James331]

Sounds like a bad idea. Sounds like a 91.13

 

[Owen Becker]

Yep, that's what I was thinking. Asking this because some other pilot said this was legal and I was seriously doubting it. Thanks

 

[Greg Bockelman]

Sounds like a bad idea. Sounds like a 91.13

Well, depends. ATC is allowed to land category I airplanes with 3,000 feet of separation. Reference is ATC (7110.65) 3-10-3. Of course, that is at tower controlled fields. At uncontrolled fields, it would probably make the pilot of the first airplane a little nervous to find another airplane landing that close behind him.

Oops. Read the question wrong. No way I would land with traffic taxiing toward me on the runway.

 

[kath]

Let me get this straight... the other aircraft is back-taxiing on your intended runway (25R) so that (s)he can get to the other end of the same runway but facing the other way (7L)? So that (s)he can take off from 7L, which would be right into you?

I wouldn't worry about the 3000-foot separation per se, I'd worry more about facing down an aircraft about to take off head-on into your approach path. Or did I miss something?

 

[luvflyin]

Well, depends. ATC is allowed to land category I airplanes with 3,000 feet of separation. Reference is ATC (7110.65) 3-10-3. Of course, that is at tower controlled fields. At uncontrolled fields, it would probably make the pilot of the first airplane a little nervous to find another airplane landing that close behind him.

Oops. Read the question wrong. No way I would land with traffic taxiing toward me on the runway.

I read it that the taxing aircraft was same direction, “...on 25R...to the threshold of 7L...”

 

[luvflyin]

Let me get this straight... the other aircraft is back-taxiing on your intended runway (25R) so that (s)he can get to the other end of the same runway but facing the other way (7L)? So that (s)he can take off from 7L, which would be right into you?

I wouldn't worry about the 3000-foot separation per se, I'd worry more about facing down an aircraft about to take off head-on into your approach path. Or did I miss something?

It’s not opposite direction. He over described it. 2000 feet remaining on the 5000 foot runway would have been enough.

 

[benyflyguy]

I need a map

 

[RyanB]

Sounds like a bad idea. Sounds like a 91.13

Not sure I’d necessarily agree with it being classified under 91.13 but it could be given the circumstance.

As for what OP has described, is it legal? I believe it would be, is it smart, probably not, especially if the aircraft that’s already landed is a turbojet and I was in a light single. I’d exercise that good ADM that I know you have and go-around.

 

[James331]

Not sure I’d necessarily agree with it being classified under 91.13 but it could be given the circumstance.

As for what OP has described, is it legal? I believe it would be, is it smart, probably not, especially if the aircraft that’s already landed is a turbojet and I was in a light single. I’d exercise that good ADM that I know you have and go-around.

If something is on the runway I don’t land on it.

If something bad happens we all know it’s always the PICs fault, and that’s an aside from the damage to plane and person.

 

[NKTFlyer]

Can you not just feel the swiss cheese holes starting to line up?