End of Life Decisions - No Good Choices

If you have not already done so be sure that someone has a legal power of attorney and a medical power of attorney. In addition she needs to name someone as her executor and draft a will with copies to multiple family members. It would be best to seek the advice of an attorney now while she is still able to speak for herself as there is much that can be done now that will make everything much easier when the end days come. I had done this with my sister 5 years ago and on Christmas eve just past I had to give the directions to let her go. It was terrible but needed and I know that I did not make the final decisions, I simply carried out her wishes since we had discussed what she wanted. Horrible to have to do but I hope someone will do the same for me if needed. God I miss her.
 
Norman, everyone dies, having seen the ravages of dementia in close elderly relatives and judging from your writing, I don't think you have any signs of dementia, my layman's opinion.

The only suggestion I have is that if you have not done so yet, get your affairs in order. A will, a living will, durable power of attorney and healthcare proxy. Make your wishes known to the people who will fulfil these roles. It's never too late or too soon to take care of this stuff as long as you are of sound mind. If someone is slipping cognitively it can still be done, but it gets harder. I'm 20 or so years younger than you and I have it all done. I was amazed at what a painless process it actually was.

Paul,

Those details are already taken care of. I didn't want to leave a confusing mess behind.
 
I'm sorry you're going through this.

Similar situation, but mom is still at home. The best choice for us is dignity, in whatever form that takes. Sometimes being taken care of is not worth what you give up. Everyone is going to die, so keep the best dignity and comfort that you can.

Your mileage may vary.
 
Epilogue...

Six days after the fall, my mom was well enough to have her hip repaired. Apparently the device they put in doesn't require the bone to grow back to work. With the hip repaired, the hospital is trying to figure out how to get her discharged. My sister, who is an RN by trade, works at a hospital about 90 miles away, and would like to have her sent to their rehabilitation center. This hospital is not that familiar with it, and would like to send her to a local rehab center. Mom's not recovering from the surgery very quickly, which slows down the need to figure out where she is to go. Finally, my sister and the case worker settle on sending her to the one near my sister's employer.

Mom's recovery is not going well. She can't really eat, can't get out of bed, and physical therapy can barely get her to do anything. This is a problem, because the rehab center she is scheduled to go to has a very aggressive physical therapy program, and only accepts patients who can benefit from this, so we're back to square one, 10 days after the fall. It's Mother's Day weekend, and I go down for a visit. On Saturday, I stop by to see her, she's weak but lucid. The breathing tube that was inserted during surgery has damaged her voice, and she's very hard to hear. On Sunday, her voice is better, and we have a very nice Mother's Day. Her voice is better, she's a little less fatigued, and we have conversations on all sorts of topics. My sister has located a rehab center not too far from her house, and we're planning on getting Mom out of the hospital on Monday.

Monday comes along, and I'm at the hospital at 6:30 AM. I want to speak to the doctor and I can't predict when he'll be there, so I start early and make sure the staff knows I want to talk to him. I stay out in the waiting area until around 7:30, as my mother is not an early riser. I do see her nurse and she tells me that my mother is quite confused this morning, so I go in to visit her. She doesn't know who I am, doesn't know where she is or why she's there. I tell her she's in the hospital, she's broken her hip, and that we were going to get her out and move her to a rehab center. At various times, she asks me if she's in Hell, if she's being punished, or if she had died. She also starts asking if she can get rid of the IV. Not too much longer after that, she starts telling everyone to "go away". That includes me, the nurses, the people from food services, and ultimately, the doctor. I stay out of her room.

The doctor rolls in about 11:30, tells me he thinks she can recover from this, that she needs to go to a rehab center because she will need 24 hour care, and that she could be discharged with either physical therapy or hospice orders. He's not her regular physician, and isn't that aware of her other infirmities, which included diagnoses for aortic stenosis, congestive heart failure, COPD, and most insidious, gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD), which most people think of as heartburn. In her case, it greatly restricts what and how much she can eat and drink. I'm still skeptical that she can recover from this, but she certainly deserves a chance, so we get her packaged up to send to the rehab center near my sister's house. Since it's out of the county she's currently in, I get to pay the $1200 it costs to move her 70 miles, but it's well worth it to get her close to one of us. It's getting towards evening, so I go in to see her one last time before she's transported. I ask her if she knows who I am, and she calls me by my name. I explain where she's going and why, and that my sister will be by tomorrow to see her, I tell her I love her, and she tells me, "I love you, go away".

It's been two weeks since she fell. I still have a job and family, so I head home. My sister goes to visit her the next day. Mom recognizes her and is quite cordial. The staff at the rehab center had gotten her out of bed and taking a few assisted steps. For the first few days there, she goes back and forth between thinking she can recover from this and go back to assisted living, and wanting to be admitted to hospice care. During that time my sister and I came to the conclusion that if she were going to go back to assisted living, we'd insist that she move to one that was near to one of us, so I plan on coming down on a Sunday to visit her, then on Monday morning move all her possessions out of her ALF apartment into a storage unit near my sister's. It's been slightly less than three weeks since the fall, and she looks a little thinner and a little weaker than when she left the hospital. I think the attempts to get her back on her feet have depleted what energy reserves she had, and she seems to have given up, as she describes her living situation as "the pits". After visiting, I check into a motel, get up the next morning, load a truck with her possessions, move them to a storage unit, return the truck, and on the way home get into the car accident described here: https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/com...-highway-crash-takes-so-long-to-clear.103561/.

The weekend after that is Memorial Day, and we have a vacation scheduled in the Florida Keys. Since she lives on the way, we'd always planned to stop and visit, this time the entire family. I have to warn my daughters that their grandmother is most likely dying, much as they saw both of my wife's parents die a few years previous. She looks smaller, thinner, and weaker than the week before, and we only stay a half hour as we are wearing her out. At this point it's obvious to both me and my sister that she's not going back to assisted living, so we try to figure out which one of our homes she can move into. My house is bigger and there are more people there to help care for her, but it's 400 miles away, and I don't know that she can make that trip in any method of travel. My sister is able to arrange a leave of absence from her RN job, so she starts the wheels in motion to get Mom into her home. On the Friday after that, Mom moves into my sister's house. The next day we arrive home from our vacation.

At six weeks after the fall, my mother was accepted into hospice, just three days after my sister got her home. I'd planned on going down for a visit that weekend, but on the Thursday before that at about 4PM, I got a call from my sister saying I should come down now. I tell her I will leave early Friday morning, and I start making mental plans for a 5 AM departure the next day. I get a call back from my sister, telling me that I should leave tonight. A social worker from hospice told her that she didn't think Mom had long to live. She was already unresponsive and her breathing was labored. I head home, make yet another motel reservation, pack some clothes and head out. I check into my motel at 12:30 AM and get to my sister's around 1. Mom is still alive, but is still unresponsive and her breathing is what medical folks describe as agonal. A long time friend of my mother's is there as well, and they've been watching over her, and administering pain medication as it appears to be needed. I stay until 3, then head back to the motel for a few hours sleep. The following afternoon at 4 PM my mother stops breathing, with myself, my sister, and my mother's friend in attendance.

For anyone who is facing or will be facing this situation, the best advice I can give is you is to deal with each occurrence as it happens and don't try to make longer term plans. You're going to be reacting to what happens as it happens, there's no point in researching what to do three steps later. I was thinking the best thing to do would be to move Mom to my house, but there's no realistic way to make that happen short of an air ambulance. The other thing that comes to mind is that any medical professionals that have not had a long term relationship with the patient tend to be relentlessly optimistic even when they shouldn't be. My mother had been eating and drinking very little in the previous few months, and after 10 days in the hospital where she may have consumed 1000 calories in total, she just didn't have the metabolism to come back from something like this. Not that you shouldn't try to see what the patient can do, but at some point you have to step back and recognize that there's not that much you can do for someone who is that old (86) and has that many ailments. Also, distance counts, your loved one will require too much attention to be far away from everyone who can care for him/her. With my inlaws, my brother in law was five minutes from them and my wife and I were 25 minutes. When Mom was an hour and a half from my sister's, it was too draining on her to spend three plus hours a day in the car.
 
@FormerHangie I am so sorry to hear this. I remember my mom telling me to see my grandfather about 4 years ago.. He was coherent enough to talk to me a bit, he apologized to me for some things, and was gone within 2 days.
 
Epilogue...

Six days after the fall, my mom was well enough to have her hip repaired. Apparently the device they put in doesn't require the bone to grow back to work. With the hip repaired, the hospital is trying to figure out how to get her discharged. My sister, who is an RN by trade, works at a hospital about 90 miles away, and would like to have her sent to their rehabilitation center. This hospital is not that familiar with it, and would like to send her to a local rehab center. Mom's not recovering from the surgery very quickly, which slows down the need to figure out where she is to go. Finally, my sister and the case worker settle on sending her to the one near my sister's employer.

Mom's recovery is not going well. She can't really eat, can't get out of bed, and physical therapy can barely get her to do anything. This is a problem, because the rehab center she is scheduled to go to has a very aggressive physical therapy program, and only accepts patients who can benefit from this, so we're back to square one, 10 days after the fall. It's Mother's Day weekend, and I go down for a visit. On Saturday, I stop by to see her, she's weak but lucid. The breathing tube that was inserted during surgery has damaged her voice, and she's very hard to hear. On Sunday, her voice is better, and we have a very nice Mother's Day. Her voice is better, she's a little less fatigued, and we have conversations on all sorts of topics. My sister has located a rehab center not too far from her house, and we're planning on getting Mom out of the hospital on Monday.

Monday comes along, and I'm at the hospital at 6:30 AM. I want to speak to the doctor and I can't predict when he'll be there, so I start early and make sure the staff knows I want to talk to him. I stay out in the waiting area until around 7:30, as my mother is not an early riser. I do see her nurse and she tells me that my mother is quite confused this morning, so I go in to visit her. She doesn't know who I am, doesn't know where she is or why she's there. I tell her she's in the hospital, she's broken her hip, and that we were going to get her out and move her to a rehab center. At various times, she asks me if she's in Hell, if she's being punished, or if she had died. She also starts asking if she can get rid of the IV. Not too much longer after that, she starts telling everyone to "go away". That includes me, the nurses, the people from food services, and ultimately, the doctor. I stay out of her room.

The doctor rolls in about 11:30, tells me he thinks she can recover from this, that she needs to go to a rehab center because she will need 24 hour care, and that she could be discharged with either physical therapy or hospice orders. He's not her regular physician, and isn't that aware of her other infirmities, which included diagnoses for aortic stenosis, congestive heart failure, COPD, and most insidious, gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD), which most people think of as heartburn. In her case, it greatly restricts what and how much she can eat and drink. I'm still skeptical that she can recover from this, but she certainly deserves a chance, so we get her packaged up to send to the rehab center near my sister's house. Since it's out of the county she's currently in, I get to pay the $1200 it costs to move her 70 miles, but it's well worth it to get her close to one of us. It's getting towards evening, so I go in to see her one last time before she's transported. I ask her if she knows who I am, and she calls me by my name. I explain where she's going and why, and that my sister will be by tomorrow to see her, I tell her I love her, and she tells me, "I love you, go away".

It's been two weeks since she fell. I still have a job and family, so I head home. My sister goes to visit her the next day. Mom recognizes her and is quite cordial. The staff at the rehab center had gotten her out of bed and taking a few assisted steps. For the first few days there, she goes back and forth between thinking she can recover from this and go back to assisted living, and wanting to be admitted to hospice care. During that time my sister and I came to the conclusion that if she were going to go back to assisted living, we'd insist that she move to one that was near to one of us, so I plan on coming down on a Sunday to visit her, then on Monday morning move all her possessions out of her ALF apartment into a storage unit near my sister's. It's been slightly less than three weeks since the fall, and she looks a little thinner and a little weaker than when she left the hospital. I think the attempts to get her back on her feet have depleted what energy reserves she had, and she seems to have given up, as she describes her living situation as "the pits". After visiting, I check into a motel, get up the next morning, load a truck with her possessions, move them to a storage unit, return the truck, and on the way home get into the car accident described here: https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/com...-highway-crash-takes-so-long-to-clear.103561/.

The weekend after that is Memorial Day, and we have a vacation scheduled in the Florida Keys. Since she lives on the way, we'd always planned to stop and visit, this time the entire family. I have to warn my daughters that their grandmother is most likely dying, much as they saw both of my wife's parents die a few years previous. She looks smaller, thinner, and weaker than the week before, and we only stay a half hour as we are wearing her out. At this point it's obvious to both me and my sister that she's not going back to assisted living, so we try to figure out which one of our homes she can move into. My house is bigger and there are more people there to help care for her, but it's 400 miles away, and I don't know that she can make that trip in any method of travel. My sister is able to arrange a leave of absence from her RN job, so she starts the wheels in motion to get Mom into her home. On the Friday after that, Mom moves into my sister's house. The next day we arrive home from our vacation.

At six weeks after the fall, my mother was accepted into hospice, just three days after my sister got her home. I'd planned on going down for a visit that weekend, but on the Thursday before that at about 4PM, I got a call from my sister saying I should come down now. I tell her I will leave early Friday morning, and I start making mental plans for a 5 AM departure the next day. I get a call back from my sister, telling me that I should leave tonight. A social worker from hospice told her that she didn't think Mom had long to live. She was already unresponsive and her breathing was labored. I head home, make yet another motel reservation, pack some clothes and head out. I check into my motel at 12:30 AM and get to my sister's around 1. Mom is still alive, but is still unresponsive and her breathing is what medical folks describe as agonal. A long time friend of my mother's is there as well, and they've been watching over her, and administering pain medication as it appears to be needed. I stay until 3, then head back to the motel for a few hours sleep. The following afternoon at 4 PM my mother stops breathing, with myself, my sister, and my mother's friend in attendance.

For anyone who is facing or will be facing this situation, the best advice I can give is you is to deal with each occurrence as it happens and don't try to make longer term plans. You're going to be reacting to what happens as it happens, there's no point in researching what to do three steps later. I was thinking the best thing to do would be to move Mom to my house, but there's no realistic way to make that happen short of an air ambulance. The other thing that comes to mind is that any medical professionals that have not had a long term relationship with the patient tend to be relentlessly optimistic even when they shouldn't be. My mother had been eating and drinking very little in the previous few months, and after 10 days in the hospital where she may have consumed 1000 calories in total, she just didn't have the metabolism to come back from something like this. Not that you shouldn't try to see what the patient can do, but at some point you have to step back and recognize that there's not that much you can do for someone who is that old (86) and has that many ailments. Also, distance counts, your loved one will require too much attention to be far away from everyone who can care for him/her. With my inlaws, my brother in law was five minutes from them and my wife and I were 25 minutes. When Mom was an hour and a half from my sister's, it was too draining on her to spend three plus hours a day in the car.


Sounds like you and your family did a great job with her, really. It's hard on the family trying to do the right thing, but in the end, if they are in a downward spiral, there is really nothing you can do about it. You didn't put her on a respirator, you didn't put a feeding tube in, you made all the right decisions from what you described in my opinion. As I said before, I watched this 3 times in the past few years, it isn't easy, but just your and your family's presence brings huge comfort for them.

Hindsight is a great thing, but don't second guess yourself, you, and your sister, did great.


Please accept my condolences for your loss.
 
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I agree with Paul. From everything you've posted, it sounds like you and your sister did a really excellent job with what's a rotten situation. Also, it's fortunate that your mother had what seems to have been a pretty quick downhill and last days, being on the order of weeks rather than years. That's a blessing for anyone. A long, drawn out end is hell.

My condolences for your loss.
 
So sorry to hear of your loss. You and your obviously did what you thought was best for your mother and kept the focus on her and what she needed. That is the very best you can ever do. Maybe she was not able to express it but I am sure she knew you loved her and were doing all that could be done. Anyone would be lucky too have people caring for them such as you and your sister. In the end, love, kindness and caring are all that matter. Sounds like she had all three in spades.
 
I'm sorry for your loss. No what what the circumstances, no matter how complicated or how much pain they were in, it is painful loosing a parent. It sounds like your family made the best decisions possible based on the information available at the time.
 
Thanks so much for the well wishes. I have to give my sister all the credit, she really put her entire life on hold to care for our mother. When we were growing up, they spent a fair amount of time butting heads, but over the years they developed quite a close relationship. I also have to thank my mom for giving my sister power of attorney for her healthcare decisions, and explicit instructions as to what she wanted and more importantly, didn't want.

I read a survey that most people wanted to die at home, but relatively few actually do. My sister made sure that our mother got her wish, which was to not die in a hospital or nursing home.
 
I believe that survey. It seems that most people have some event that ends up ending their life that gets them to a hospital, rather than dying in their sleep or the like.
 
@FormerHangie having seen that process a few times now, it went as well as it ever does. Condolences on your loss.

You did fine. There's no handbook on how to handle the stuff that happens when a dying family member or close friend who has no relatives, goes through this and you're the one doing all the things.

It also sounds like you had hospice involved early enough. My wife regularly says, "People don't talk to hospice soon enough and it can make things so much worse..."

Again, we are both sorry for your loss.
 
Condolences for your loss and thank you so much for posting your story and your insights about what to do. We are facing this with both our mothers who are 88 and 90 and both frail but ambulatory. I visited my mother last week (I'm in Texas, she is in NC) and she talked about avoiding falling. She said "because when you're my age and you fall and break a bone, boy it's all over with!"

But you and your sister did everything you could. There is no easy way through this. I will remember your advice especially to take each event as it comes. I am very prone to overthinking and trying to predict three steps into the future and I see where you can waste energy on things that won't come to pass. Also the new doctors being too optimistic, I'm glad to have your story it will keep things in perspective if I try to think the doctor always knows best. One thing younger doctors and maybe people in general don't understand about being very old, all their friends are already dead. At 90 my mother now talks a lot about this. One by one her friends passed away until there is only one left to whom she can write letters. A few years ago she wrote to 5 or 6 friends and relatives of her generation but now she sits at the table after her one letter and is just so lonely. Even with the young generation around (my sister moved in, she has lots of friendly neighbors), it's not the same as your own peers you grew up with.

So mom seems to be preparing to "go join them". And my siblings and I will need to face these hard decisions that you faced unless she is one of the lucky ones who goes to bed one night and as my mother puts it, "wakes up dead". She says that's what she is wishing for.

I am so worried about both my mother and my husband's mother and what we all are about to face so I will try to take your advice to heart and try not to worry and just take things one step at a time as they happen.
 
So mom seems to be preparing to "go join them". And my siblings and I will need to face these hard decisions that you faced unless she is one of the lucky ones who goes to bed one night and as my mother puts it, "wakes up dead". She says that's what she is wishing for.

Funny how that goes. My mom seems to have wanted to be old her whole life. Now she's really not that old (73) but acts like she's in her 80s. She almost seemed happy when telling me about some of the family members who'd died, as if it meant it was her turn. Don't know if she truly feels that way or not, but it was odd. Maybe she is looking forward to it.
 
Condolences @FormerHangie

I've got one living grandparent alive right now and thankfully both parents. I watched two of my grandparents slowly decline and eventually die from cancer and the only one alive now has had a series of accidents like your mother. She's now confined to a wheel chair and her mind is slowly going. She's in her 90s. The other day she forgot about her husband dying and asked for him (he's been gone for over a decade) and then broke down in tears when she was reminded, as if she heard it for the first time.

I can't even imagine losing a parent and when that time does come I know I'll be a wreck..

All I can say is I hope you and your family find peace.
 
Condolences for your loss, @FormerHangie

Both of my parents died within two days of each other about 10 years ago. My dad had the easier time: he died of a heart attack, at age 93, and was able-bodied and active up to the day before he died. My mom had a horrible 3 years before she went, in and out of hospitals and rehab facilities, falling and breaking her hip, ribs, several bones in her face, repeatedly, sleeping away most of her time, wishing for death.

As others have said, never feel guilty about being relieved that it's over. Though you will feel that, and many other conflicting emotions, as you work through the grieving process. Wishing you strength and courage.
 
I still remember when mama Steingar had her fall. I saw it coming, sort of like watching a train wreck in slow motion and knowing there's nothing at all you can do about it. So she's in the hospital with a broken hip. Her faculties had already largely checked out, and I knew she did't have the cognitive abilities to go through the physical therapy to get her back on her feet. Moreover, I knew her faculties would take another BIG hit with the surgery and everything accompanying it. In other words, I was sending mama Steingar through a fairly big operation despite the fact that she would emerge pretty well without much cognitive ability, which is what happened.

I could have told the docs no, she shouldn't have the surgery. Why waste an expensive operation on someone so challenged? But at the end of the day I did it. Had I not she would have slowly declined and died in pain. I just couldn't justify that, not at that point. It is really difficult to condemn someone to die in pain when it can be relieved.

Got the choice again about two years later. Mama Steingar's vasculature was shutting down, and her extremities were dying. Basically gas gangrene. Had to do amputations to keep her going. At this point mama Steingar hadn't said anything in months, didn't really do much more than eat, sleep and the other thing. I said no, time for hospice. Enough is enough. She passed away about a week later. Both her other sons got to see her before she checked out.

To be honest, the worst part of the whole experience was when I told her that her daughter died, after I got back from the funeral. I just felt I had to. She was at that point still upright and in and out. She cried so much. I felt so badly causing her that kind of pain. Nice thing was she lied down, took and nap and forgot all about it. Dementia has its up sides.
 
One of the other strong points Hangie makes is how important it is to be physically near your parent. Even if they are in a "home" or have paid care, a family member needs to be close to oversee and make sure they are being properly cared for and to do all the little management tasks that paid help doesn't do. We are finding this to be a problem in this day of limited job choices and needing to move far for a job.
 
Agreed on not feeling guilty about being relieved it's over. It's stressful for you and hellish for them.

My mom's still early in the downward spiral and I know I'll be relieved when it's over.
 
Epilogue...

I'm sorry for your loss.

I won't go into detail but I have just been through circumstances very similar to yours with my daddy. He passed away at 94 just this past May 22. We had actually moved from Charlotte back to Atlanta in Jan '14 to move in with and take care of my parents because they got too old to live by themselves. I've seen him almost every day for over 3 years and for the past 10 months when he had to go to a nursing home I visited him almost ever day. The nurse called about 7am that morning and said we should come down as it looked like he was 'transitioning'. We quickly headed there and 20 minutes later after we got there he passed. Thankfully after all that we've been through with him my wife and I were able to be with him when he died. I would have felt very incomplete if I hadn't been. After being with him so much it's hard to get used to him not being around. I really miss him.
 
One of the other strong points Hangie makes is how important it is to be physically near your parent. Even if they are in a "home" or have paid care, a family member needs to be close to oversee and make sure they are being properly cared for and to do all the little management tasks that paid help doesn't do. We are finding this to be a problem in this day of limited job choices and needing to move far for a job.

Geography is a big deal. We've had to work that out ourselves. Long distance care is big problem in a lot of ways. You can't monitor their care - the nurses, doctors, and staff seem (and I know I'm generalizing) to take a lot better care of a patient when they know that someone else is acting as that patient's advocate. And there are so many day-to-day decisions that have to be made that are very difficult to do over the phone.
 
Thank you all for your insights, and my condolences to @FormerHangie.

My mother is in her early 80s and has been in a long, slow decline. In the last year, she's gone from assisted living to skilled nursing. Her memory has started short circuiting and her physical health had deteriorated significantly, to the point she can't move by herself.

Every visit is great to have a the time, but emotionally draining at the same time. She's hanging on and as happy as could be expected, but tough seeing her in this condition. Some days I look forward to her being in a better place. Tough to reconcile that with the love we all have for her.
 
Condolences for your loss and thank you so much for posting your story and your insights about what to do. We are facing this with both our mothers who are 88 and 90 and both frail but ambulatory. I visited my mother last week (I'm in Texas, she is in NC) and she talked about avoiding falling. She said "because when you're my age and you fall and break a bone, boy it's all over with!"

But you and your sister did everything you could. There is no easy way through this. I will remember your advice especially to take each event as it comes. I am very prone to overthinking and trying to predict three steps into the future and I see where you can waste energy on things that won't come to pass. Also the new doctors being too optimistic, I'm glad to have your story it will keep things in perspective if I try to think the doctor always knows best. One thing younger doctors and maybe people in general don't understand about being very old, all their friends are already dead. At 90 my mother now talks a lot about this. One by one her friends passed away until there is only one left to whom she can write letters. A few years ago she wrote to 5 or 6 friends and relatives of her generation but now she sits at the table after her one letter and is just so lonely. Even with the young generation around (my sister moved in, she has lots of friendly neighbors), it's not the same as your own peers you grew up with.

So mom seems to be preparing to "go join them". And my siblings and I will need to face these hard decisions that you faced unless she is one of the lucky ones who goes to bed one night and as my mother puts it, "wakes up dead". She says that's what she is wishing for.

I am so worried about both my mother and my husband's mother and what we all are about to face so I will try to take your advice to heart and try not to worry and just take things one step at a time as they happen.

Rushie,

No condolences needed on my end. I'M 77,and like most males of my age I'm living on borrowed time. My 88 YO sister passed away Sunday. It was expected so there was no shock involved. I'm the only one of my mom and dad's family left. My time will come, but I know not when. Not seeking sympathy, just stating facts and likelihoods..
 
Rushie,

No condolences needed on my end. I'M 77,and like most males of my age I'm living on borrowed time. My 88 YO sister passed away Sunday. It was expected so there was no shock involved. I'm the only one of my mom and dad's family left. My time will come, but I know not when. Not seeking sympathy, just stating facts and likelihoods..

None of us get out of this alive, that's the one certainty we have in this life.
 
Rushie,

No condolences needed on my end. I'M 77,and like most males of my age I'm living on borrowed time. My 88 YO sister passed away Sunday. It was expected so there was no shock involved. I'm the only one of my mom and dad's family left. My time will come, but I know not when. Not seeking sympathy, just stating facts and likelihoods..

My mom's only sibling died a couple years ago. They found a box beside his bed with all the letters she had written him. He was in his 90s and was her closest pen pal.
 
Whew, you have really been through the ringer. There is not much that I can and to the warm and concerned advice you received in this thread other than to say I feel for what you went through and to offer condolences for your loss.
 
Well, made the decision last week to transition our mother to hospice. In her case, the cure is going to kill the patient. Since we’ve stopped all medication and nutrition, she took a day essentially in coma, and has been on a 3-day rally. She’s gone from unresponsive and agonizing pain to somewhat lucid and pain free. Her birthday is Thursday and we hope to celebrate it with her.

The reality is she’s outlived her 5-day prognosis. But, her condition is complicated. The medication necessary to treat the basic illness causes a sepsis. Alternative treatments are too invasive with no guarantees of success.

I can’t say enough about the hospice staff. The have cared for us just as much as they’ve cared for her. It’s been a blessing and a curse all at once.
 
That's a tough break, sometimes there just isn't anything you can do. I'm glad you have good hospice helpers, they really make all the difference in the world.

Take care and enjoy the good days with your mom.
 
With my mother, once she got to my sister's house, she felt comfortable and just let go. Hopefully your mom can make it until Thursday and perhaps then she'll decide it's time.

It's just difficult. I wish you all the best at this trying time.
 
Very sorry. Went through this with my wife’s parents a few years ago. It’s very trying and exhausting. Prayer helps, and you have mine.
 
@TCABM I am sorry to hear that you are going through this, although more and more it seems that we all will in some form. I pray for strength and comfort for you and your mother.
 
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